Appreciate the detailed thoughts and feelings.
So keen and interested in the OT & SubH combo too!
Does the SubH clock nicely from the OT?
Really like the idea of capturing and slicing loops from it, fx, transitions and all that good OT stuff
yeah it clocks perfectly, plug and play.
sadly i now need a DFAM, and an M-32, woe is me
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Yup. This happened to me, too, and I turned my SH into a sound studio. I am very happy with the outcome, and the idea that all three would work well together has indeed played out.
This is so true. I find I am better able to find again the nice sequences I loose to experimentation now that I have a bit more experience, but not always.
I do three through tracks, one for each instrument (DFAM/SH/M32 as tracks 1, 3, and 5), each with an associated neighbor track (tracks 2, 4, and 6) to add effects, along with a master track (track 8) and master track recorder (track 7). This way, you can glitch up just one of the instruments, and process each differently. Or, play a recorded loop while you adjust the sequence. Easy to use and very powerful.
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I patched a punk rock like chord riff on the SubH, the night before my buddy was scheduled to come over and jam.
Next day, the punk riff was gone when I turned the SubH back on, replaced by an atonal thing. I had to retune the oscillators and step knobs. Just one of its quirks
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Yes it lives for the moment. Do you know why this happens? Oscillators drift but the rest i dont see why they do as well.
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I get this, atonal is its natural resting state!
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I have also noticed this many times. I always suspected that it was due to the machine not being warmed up – it’s analog after all – but have never tested it.
I need to buy one and build a fridge around it 
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nahh, energy is too expensive nowadays to try and tame all those warm sounding moog ocillators, gotta go with the atonal flow!
I think since the last fimware update moog have improved this though…doesnt seem to happen so often to me now…
It could be.
I didn’t bother trying to reproduce the same sequence of pitches, compared to the previous evening, as it seemed like too much work. I just focused on setting up a sequence to stay within a key center.
I also haven’t downloaded the latest OS update or tried the calibration procedure yet.
Hey I’ve been trying to update firmware on my Subh through the midi on my Analog 4 mk1 to no avail. My pc sees it and am using the midi app they suggest, which sees the A4 but no dice. Any ideas?
Elektrons don’t pass USB midi to DIN midi. That’ll be the blocker in this case, I imagine.
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Ahh thanks so much, had a feeling that the case. Cheers!
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Fun formant patch
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I’ve been using a Subharmonicon this week, and it sounds pretty weak compared to my Grandmother. The sound isn’t as thick, and even with two oscillators in unison it doesn’t come close to a single oscillator on the GM.
Is this normal, or do I have a defective unit? I mean, it seems like it works properly, it’s just nowhere near as fat.
Are you using it on its own (internal sequencer) or playing it chromatically via midi?
I think when you dial in the sub oscillators (tuned an octave down, for example) the SubH is pretty thick! But it’s not a ”bass synth” played via midi - noticed that much some months ago when I was trying to have the SubH fill in for my Matriarch in a condensed setup.
On it’s own. I was hoping it would sound like the Grandmother, with some nice deep bass. It’s ok, but definitely better in higher registers. The filter doesn’t seem as smooth either.
Yeah it’s not a baby Grandmother or Matriarch. Really like it for what it is but I was similarly hoping that it could also be my small desktop Moog bass synth.
Minitaur/Sirin it is.
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Yeah, I’ll buy a Minitaur if I ever need a Moog bass synth for a small (live) setup. Sirins are going for crazy money these days. In the studio it’s Matriarch all the way.
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