OctaEdit - Octatrack Software Editor and Librarian [ OSX / Windows ]

Allthough i am grateful to Rusty for his efforts and commitment
And id love to have an OT dedicated program to beable to transfer samples and projects

The thing is , Elektron have always been a company who releases “beta” products and improves them for free to reward the loyalty of their customers,
In the case of the OT it was marketed as a whole load of things that it has never become,
Now dont get me wrong, i love my OT, but it seemed obvious the day i invested in it,that i was investing in something which wasnt quite finished
Wheras the OS updates have al but ceased to exist for the OT
Now its Analog power (A4 AR, AK, - no new upadates for the older gear)

So id be happy to have an OT program like what RUSTY proposes, but id only be happy to pay max 10 - 15 €, you guys are crazy to put forth 150€ , ELEKTRON UPDATES FOR FREE !!! thats always been part of their policy

I am as many owners are, frustrated by Elektrons “abandon” of the OT, and wouldnt be surprised if they released a new sampler in the next few years
As a minimum wage earner, 1 elektron machine is more than a months wages, so an important investment, not to be spent lightly

But as much as i support Rusty’s initiative, it is also supporting Elektron abandoning their products, Which in the case of the OT is particularly scandalous , as it was marketed as something it was not

Peas

Will see but i will wait and see if the software is supported. Strom seems to be abandonware right now and there still bugs .

Congratulations to Rusty to bringing this to fruition.

If I was in his shoes I’d suggest he sells it as donationware, whereby he has the option to reject offers if he chooses.
Some people can pay the money they are suggesting, others might want to pay something different.

Such an approach might maximise his deserved return. Like I’d hope Cuckoo, and others like Tarekith, SecretMusicUK and many other contributors to the files and video tutorials section have hopefully gotten a few nice donations for their considerable efforts to benefit the community if they have provided a link to do so.

I’m not sure what I’d pay for it. It seems it would be very useful for elektronauts who, by their choice of hardware, are a little OCD by nature :wink:

Furthermore I doubt piracy will be much of an issue, hopefully. People will want the software for themselves and I think are generally honest these days within a community like this when it comes to recognising effort, whether for software or purchasing music etc that has an optional price and they won’t send it around to others for free.

Some real fcked up thinking around here on price, :astonished: i knew that was coming, :disappointed:

Its embarrassing to associated with these types, :angry: “boo hoo boo hoo i have a low paid job, everybody owes me something.”

Maybe some of you should go concern yourself with why you cant buy a new car for $2000,
and tell car manufactures they are cnuts because you might have to steal one. :-1:

I’m less interested in the price, and more interested in WHEN.
Sure, the price could dictate my ability to “jump on it,” nevertheless I need this thing.
I’ll either find a way, or balk at the price and suffer though endless hours of copy and pasting parts and patterns between projects.
Even if I go with the latter, it wont be Rusty’s price that baffles me.

To me it doesn’t matter who does this editor - Elektron or Rusty or whoever. Just make it already. :wink: Sometimes when a company makes software for its own product, it’s not as good as software made by someone else - case in point the Korg Volca Sampler.

If you can’t afford the editor, just use the Octatrack the way I use it right now - with its own display, knobs, buttons, etc. I don’t really need the editor to make music on the OT, but it looks like the sort of thing that might inspire me in new directions. That’s why we occasionally spend money on gear, the confidence that the new thing we buy will inspire us to do something we hadn’t done before - otherwise we’d all just be strumming cowboy chords on guitars or something equally ingrained by habit.

I appreciate Rustys work. But you guys are too old and got too much money. And shure you have no time for real music making then. Stuck in midlife crisis with wife, kids and jobs and putting lots of money into a dream that never comes true.
Never would I pay 150$. Come back down to earth.

News flash, everyone ages.
I’m glad it’s not old with no money, no dreams, and no one around.
Your armchair analysis might be more of a personal fear, and with a perspective like that I can see why.

Some pretty wild pricing expectations out there to be honest. At least $150?! No danger!

Rusty will sell for what he thinks its worth. That may be more than I’m willing to pay in the end - time will tell. If it is I could always hold off until Elektron inevitably butcher the code and release their own version down the line (jokes! :wink: ).

Lol this will be fun :rage:

Tell you what little man, I could afford that when I was young too, and guess why? lived the dream already. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Just how deep is that hole you live in? :dizzy_face:

Gotta love Wine!
I recently added a macbook pro to my gear setup for mobile music making and the amount of stuff I have got working through a very easy to use Wine Wrapper tool… :slight_smile:

News flash, everyone ages.
I’m glad it’s not old with no money, no dreams, and no one around.
Your armchair analysis might be more of a personal fear, and with a perspective like that I can see why.

Lol this will be fun

Tell you what little man, I could afford that when I was young too, and guess why? lived the dream already.

Just how deep is that hole you live in?

Nothing against being old, or beeing rich since childhood.

Better pay 150$ for a software editor. Crzy.

To start a business and to develop a product it always takes a lot of effort. Because its something new to you.
This extra effort is often not payed. The extra time is an investment in your own development. If you want to pay for Rustys development i am shure he provides you his paypal account.

Software is no different than every other thing associated with your music setup. Just like there are high and low priced synthesizers and there are high priced cables and DIY cable parts, same with software.

The manufacturer of the stuff will set the price to whatever they feel is best and people will buy it or not. You decided to spend $1200 on an OT instead of $120 on a Volca. That was your choice.

If you choose to make your own and save some money, great for you. If you choose to keep using the OT without the software - great, you have lost nothing.

The benefit of being old is that you realize that time becomes more valuable than money.

Some interesting comments on pricing. What I will say on the matter is this:

Like any other product, OctaEdit will be presented with a price tag.

It is up to each individual to then assess the value proposition for themselves, and they will buy OctaEdit or not.

hoping there’ll be a demo version so we can assess the value proposition for ourselves.

There won’t be a demo version of OctaEdit.

OS X

Does that mean that version running on OS X will be officially packaged (bottled), tested, and supported by you?

At this point in time no.

Though some beta testers are quite happily doing that exact scenario.

If/when that changes to an “offical” stance, then it will become a yes.

the price question is indeed a very delicate question.
it´s no question, that the octa edit is more than a very sought after
complement for the OT.

but what´s a fair price ? rusty should get fair money for his efforts !

i followed the history of the development of the Octa Edit for some
time now and have the feeling elektron was not very supportive to
that project.

but at this point of time, where the OctaEdit seems to get a finished product,
wouldn´t it be great of you elektron guys to support all of us ?

what i mean is that you could help rusty financially to make it possible to offer
the Octa Edit for a price anyone can afford (i´m thinking of 20 to 30 bucks)
wouldn´t that make sense ? for many customers the OctaEdit would rise
the value of the OT itself … ?

another thought: you offer rusty a “shitload” of money and we can get the
OctaEdit for free :slight_smile:

would be nice to hear of any official elektron guy or gal commenting on this.
many OT users seem to be much more excited about rusty´s project than
about OB ?

Well said, oldgearguy.