I understand my luck is just bad. The Octatrack itself felt so nice & well built. I’m not blaming location of production at all. Be aware of that. I love their devices regardless of where they’re assembled.
Pretty stunned that we now have two giant threads full of bollocks running simultaneously (this and the Karen meme chat)! Normally this is a one in a month thing…
I’m a little more uncomfortable with some undertones in this thread though. Almost like some folks purchases are tainted somehow because they are built in another country…
If mine (and others) experience with the Digitakt release some years back is anything to go by then I welcome the news!
Not fully true again
- Porsche belongs to Volkswagen
- Porsche Cayenne SUV model is made in Bratislava, Slovakia. Is true for rest of current models still Germany. But then I believe Bose Audio System inside the car is not made in Germany
- You for not want to pay price of Porche for elektron boxes correct? It maybe Porche I’d something affordable for you then sorry.
In general speaking about made in those days don’t explain anything. Is very rare to find now any company making all in one country for electronic business. Imagine to do an elektron boxes you should cover many production types under one roof - plastic, metal, pcb boards, glass, etc. Keeping high quality for all this areas in one place will cost fortune so their products should be much more expensive than now and they are not cheap at all are this moment.
Cheers
The British in another doing something selfish that massively backfired shocker.
Hmmm you’re reaching - it’s pretty much true as you say. Porsche SUVs obviously are their low end mass sellers and aren’t traditionally what you’d associate with the marque; the Model Series of the brand if you will. The key models - the stuff people really associate with Porsche - are still made in Germany. That was precisely my point.
But look this stuff about what is made where is moot, and merely picking hairs. My point was that when you take all the changes I listed together - and the movement of production facilities was just one several points - it looks like Elektron is moving to a different path as a business. That’s it! I don’t really have an opinion on where the stuff is made, more overall on what all these points taken together might mean. I’m not sure they bode well but that’s just my opinion and shouldn’t necessarily be anyone else’s, nor did I ever say it should be. It’s a musing. Time will tell. Who knows, right?
Can’t wait for everyone to go this apeshit when Polyend start making some of their gear in Sweden.
Exactly this.
They better update Wikipedia then ‘Production in Sweden’
Elektron is a Swedish developer and manufacturer of musical instruments founded in 1998, as well as having its headquarters, R&D and production in Gothenburg, Sweden. They produce mainly electronic musical instruments, but have also made effects units and software. Since 2012, there have been branch offices in Los Angeles and in Tokyo.
I don’t think a lot of people here seem to grasp quite how large scale a factory would actually be required to make all the parts for Elektron boxes if it was all done in one place.
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The machines alone used to make the plastics for the Model series are around the size of a bus, not to mention the infrastructure and knowledge required in the manufacturing of the plastics themselves, as well as designing/building the moulds to make them.
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I would expect something similar for the metal enclosures, which may also be painted/printed separately too (I don’t know much about this side).
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PCB building is another large-scale process with insanely expensive machines and infrastructure required.
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The actual PCBs themselves would also have been made separately before this.
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The components that go on the PCBs will come from multiple different factories across the globe, then you have screens, knobs, pots, PCB spacers, screws, washers, connectors… etc.
There may even be sub-assembly PCBs that come premade, such as LCD controllers/microprocessors. -
Packaging, maunals, stickers, etc. manufactuing - I would assume this is all outsourced.
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After that you have the final assembly where all the parts above are combined into what you recieve.
That is 7+ separate processes, and I would be very suprised if less than 5 separate locations were used for the main ones, before even taking into account having multiple locations performing the same task on different products to increase production speed.
Of the four electronics manufacturing factories I have been to, one I would not rely on to make PCBs for a torch (England), another was better but hugely outdated (England), the other two were huge factories and parts of a large multinational corporation with factories in the UK, US and, you guessed it… Poland (among many others - it looks like they currently have 17 locations for manufacturing alone).
Basing opinions on the country of manufacture is fairly daft at best, ramping up to pretty derogatory and offensive at worst.
EDIT: proud owner of an OT made in Poland, who hadn’t even thought to look at the label until reading this thread,
If the label said made in Botswana would it matter? Is there a limit to how we look at certain countries from a manufacturing point of view?
It helps if you read this post as if Donald Trump (remember him?) were saying it.
Hang on though, just because I come on a thread about stuff being made in Poland to share my theory about how Elektron are making bad business choices (as opposed to the several dozen non-Poland related Elektron speculation threads) doesn’t mean I have anything against things being made in Poland…
Total coincidence.
This is precisely what I was alluding to when I talked about scale, and it’s my overall point, although others seem intent on ceaselessly turning this into some quasi-nationalism discussion which leaves a very bad taste
Moving to new manufacturing indicates to me that they may be scaling up production, need to cut costs, want to diversify, etc. Plenty of possibilities but very few of them would indicate that it means they want to continue on exactly the same path they were on before. Again, my point is Elektron seem to be making a number of changes along these lines which mean change is afoot.
I see it as a business move as well. There could be tax reasons or benefits given to them for setting up in another country. But it surely is about making more money. Good luck to them!
While I personally have zero problems with stuff being made in Poland, I dont understand how overly defensive some people here become when it comes to criticism towards Elektron and their products. Some other examples are the OT-sound-quality thread and the A4 bass thread. Just let people have different opinions even if you think they are wrong.
Close but no cigar
Zoom in on the parcels and it looks like an M. MM/MD2 confirmed!
Happy to let people have whatever opinion they like.
Also happy to take the piss out of it if it warrants it.
If you’re going to post shit on the internet, people are going to disagree with it. Though I’m with you when it comes to people flagging shit, but that debate’s been done to death.
i have a few Polish friends. They are some of the hardest workers i know.
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Me too but they are lazy assholes who can’t hold their drink.