One sample silences the other

Elektron Gear Model:Samples
#1

Hi everyone!

I’m already gratefull for many questions/answers made in this forum that helped me understaning Model Sampls. It’s good to be part of this community, thank you.

I’m trying to do the following.

  • I have two different shaker samples on Two different tracks
  • Then I create the sequence using both Trackpads to simulate the shaker move.
  • So, now I have two tracks with different shake samples and sequences.
  • Now what I would like to happens is that always that T1 samples are triggered they automaticly mutes T2 samples, and vice versa.
    In other words i would like to turn two tracks monophonic between them, is that possible?

I hope you understand what I meant to say.

Best regards

#2

If you put both samples on the same track, using sound/sample locks, this will happen automatically.

1 Like
#3

Yes, I’m trying to achieve it that way, but I hope there is a simplest way to do it. Thank you for your answer

#4

I wish there was a ‘track merge’ feature to do this automatically. Not driven by the same reasons as the OP, but just to merge drum/percussion tracks to free up tracks.

Same for model:cycles.

2 Likes
#5

But this is the simplest, and most useful way.

You could also add a p-lock on each track in the strps where there is a hit on the other track, to set the track level to zero. But that fills two tracks up with trigs you could achieve the same goal using one track and sample locks.

Don’t work against the system design to achieve an effect that is already present in the design.

5 Likes
#6

On all Elektron gear you have limited polyphony but epic level multi-timbrality… so protect and curate your polyphony strongly, because you can be very free with timbrality.

1 Like
#7

Yes I agree. I was just trying to reduce the steps nedded to get where I want. With this solution I will always have to create two sequences in two different tracks first (so I can get different velocities on different trigs and samples) and then I can copy the trigs to same track with both samples loaded.
Thanks for the option you gave.

#8

The only reason to start with two separate tracks (unless I’m missing something ?) is two separate samples.

But even then, you could load two different one-shots into one wav file, probably with same length for each one-shot, then use start:1 length:60 for the first one, and start:61 length:60 for the second ?

load two different one-shots into one wav file

Not directly on the model samples of course , but on a computer, ipad, phone or other sampler.

EDIT: I think this is known as ‘sample-chaining’

1 Like
#9

Yes, that’s a clever way to solve this, having some prep work of course, but it’s ok

#10

It is probably simpler (no prep) though, to start with one track and do sample locks from the outset.

1 Like
#11

When I was trying to load a sample on a specific trig, the following message appears “Sample locks full!”, do you know what does it means?
(Probably I should start a new debate)

#12

I’m not super-familiar with the samples (only had it a few days versus a year on the cycles) but I’m sure its related to the capacity of the Locks folder in sample selection (+drive).

I think you have too many different samples (26) locked in your current pattern … but I’m not clear on the exact constraints without diving into the manual.

EDIT: Manual section 8.12.2 seems to cover it. Text above adjusted.

#13

I’ve copied the pattern and pasted it on a new project and the same message is displayed, I’m getting to that manual section, thanks

#14

I was under the impression that Model Samples does not allow 2 different samples to be loaded on different steps of the same track and that the only solution is a sample file with multiple samples and alter the start / length parameters?

Edit. OK I see sample locks was added in an update!

1 Like