Hey everyone, I feel lost at the moment, I don’t know what I’m doing wrong.
I’ve been using the OT as master and DT as slave for months, no problem.
After realizing the OT isn’t entirely reliable when recording MIDI (chords especially), I’m trying to slave it to the DT instead.
The sync seems flimsy (jumping from 111.9 to 112.1 twice every second) and my big issue is that FLEX machines don’t work properly when they’re set up like a “THRU”. Playback just stops randomly, generally after a second. It seems to work if I microtime the playback trig just a notch to the right, but I don’t want that.
Information that may or may not be relevant :
DT transport and clock set to send
OT transport and clock set to receive
All trigger channels are off on the OT
DT pattern is empty
No pitch or rate alteration on the OT
I’ve tried restarting both machines.
Double-stopping the DT doesn’t double stop the OT.
i noticed this too when having digitakt or digitone as my master device. quite sure it wasn’t like that in the beginning when i got these , maybe a bug introduced with an update?
oh, sorry, i was just talking about the tempo jitter. my OT seems to work fine slaved, or maybe i use it differently. it’s sometimes hard to tell with the OT.
I think we agree, maybe I wasn’t clear. There always was a bit of tempo jitter when the OT was in slave mode, and it was the reason you couldn’t use pick up machines in that mode… But I don’t remember it was a problem with FLEX machines. Now it is.
Can you describe the effect or behaviour you are trying to achieve? Why do you want Flex Machines to behave like Thru machines? Why is microtining unacceptable?
So, I like to set up a Flex Machine playing its respective recording buffer. It’s constantly recording and playing back the recording. It’s an easy way for me to monitor what’s coming in, and I can remove the recorder trig whenever I’m satisfied with what’s coming in, so I’m left with a loop.
I could use a Thru machine to monitor, and just record a loop with QREC set to PLEN, for example (or arm a one-shot trig, or any other method really) but I’d need to switch to a Flex eventually, and that seems like a hassle, and I’m just way more comfortable with the method above.
I’d be more than happy to learn a quick method to achieve similar results, that would be compatible with the OT being slave.
Microtiming isn’t acceptable because I switched to DAWless to avoid timing issues, and also because this workaround adds an extra 2 moves (shift+right arrow). The OT involves enough manipulation already.
You know when next to a machine you have a “+” sign meaning that it’s recording, and a triangle meaning that it’s playing back said recording ? In slave mode, the triangle disappears randomly, meaning the playback stops, and I assume it’s because of the tempo jitter.
I need the OT in slave mode and the DT as master because I need the DT midi input to use an external keyboard, because the DT is much more capable when it comes to recording MIDI.
I just got out of bed to try it because it’s driving me nuts, and I can’t get the MIDI through, would you be kind enough to guide me through this ?
Keyboard MIDI out set to 15
Auto Channel set to 15 on the OT
Same on the DT
Let’s say I set up track A on the DT to channel 2, to control a synth set on MIDI channel 2. How do I control that synth from my external keyboard connected to the MIDI in of the OT ?
You’ll also need to pass MIDI through the OT to the DT on Ch15. I think you’d do that by setting up a MIDI Track to send on ch15, and then selecting that track when you want to play another instrument. It might be easier to turn off Auto-Ch on the DT, and set up the OT to have a MIDI track for each synth you wish to address.
You’ve set up the autochannel, next:
You need to assign one of the OT midi tracks to speak to the DT on autochannel.
That way when you select the OT midi track, you can play any of the DT tracks by selecting the desired track on the DT itself.
Or go with @Octagonist suggestion. Both work well. I prefer the auto channel method, as it allows me 7 more OT midi tracks to drive other gear.
DIR has a few limitations : inputs are hard panned left and right, and you can’t apply effects. But if I get this MIDI thing to work I’m out of the woods. Getting back to you ASAP ! thanks again for your patience!