Is there any future updated planned to enable external midi sync while using overbridge in a DAW (for audio recording)? This seems like overbridge 2.0 added some features but took away a HUGE one. The Rytm is a drum machine and usb sync is notoriously bad. Does anyone know the last version of overbridge that allowed this? I am probably going to downgrade since I don’t use the OB features extensively except to record audio. I also find it odd that they don’t note this anywhere in the release notes but have it come up on a splash page when you open the Rytm VST…or did I miss something? Also, not sure if this should go in the overbridge forum because I’m also not sure if this problem is exclusive to the Rytm MKI or not, since I don’t see it mentioned in any manual/release notes!
edited to include the picture. look @ bullet point #3. My Rytm crashes a lot now basically, when it never did before. Does anyone know how to get old versions of Overbridge and the Rytm OS’s?
Well, it told me not to, first of all. I believe this message popped up with the Beta version too. It allows me to try but the unit freezes and crashes all the time now.
It would be good if Elektron clarified what s the deal with this and whether it s on the roadmap to change.
FWIW when I briefly tried OB with AR2 and Live on Win10 I was able to sync Live to the AR clock instead of the other way around (in plugin and AR settings). I could also disable sync altogether, which can be useful if all you need is multitrack recording. I was trying these things because the AR2 is the midi clock source for my hardware setup.
The sync works really well for me, completely non issue, it doesn’t use regular midi sync it’s custom for overbridge, just use overbridge sync and then take clock from the AR to your other gear… works perfectly for me this way
I know how Overbridge sync works and it’s not a working solution for me. USB timing always “hovers” around the bpm, or slowly drifts off the ableton beat grid after a minute of playing. I’m not sure if it’s Windows users who this affects more or what, but it’s fairly common.
Yeah I’m using windows and it’s bang on every time.
so possibly have something going on in your setup that is causing problems…
My point was it isn’t typical midi USB as you were referring to
Agree. I use it the same way as you in Windows10 and its so solid that I can drive all my hardware with the clock from the Rytm. I constantly add new takes to my recordings at different parts in the track and everything is always on the grid. If it didn’t work well for me I definitely would not use it.
Its not the case for me and I don’t think I’d describe it as fairly common either.
It would still be great if elektron or their representative on the forums could chime in about the warning on the vst page then? Why do they say not to use external midi syn with overbridge? It’s all find and dandy everyone else can make this work perfect but there’s a reason things like the USAMO and ERM products exist- because these problems are real and effect enough people where USB sync is unstable, no matter who the manufacturer of the product is.
My guess is it’s a disclaimer to do with the plugin working its best with accuracy…
I send midi to the elektron devices via the auto channel to record notes into the sequencer the regular midi way and it works fine… just turn off sync and transport in the plugin if you don’t want to use it… but I think you will get better sync using it, it’s all working so well they just made it the official version
I believe it means don’t send normal MIDI clock to an overbridge device via USB. OB does sync via USB, but not using MIDI protocol, but via it’s propriety tech. Which is a lot tighter than normal USB MIDI sync. Overbridge is not USB MIDI sync and shouldn’t be confused as so, it doesn’t suffer from the same problems as devices using the jitter hell that is USB MIDI sync.
Once you have OB set up right, it’s tight. My OB machines are synced via USB and are tight to the rest of my studio which is clocked via ERM.
Can you explain what your slave/master configuration is? You seem to be saying your studio is slaved to a clock from ERM, but yet your elektron devices are synced to a clock from your computer via OB?
I am using Ableton as master clock, sent through USAMO and a splitter to multiple machines. Rytm is set to No Sync in OB so I can record audio. Today was actually a smooth day without any crashes, which was the reason for this whole post anyways. It’s possible the crashes/freezes are unrelated to the external sync I’m sending it and more to do with OB or OS stuff in general, so maybe I’ll test other configurations and see if it persists. I’m assuming one workaround is to use the Rytm as a master clock and slave my computer to that, but doing 50% of my work ITB makes that experience really clunky.
Hi guys same question with my Digitakt and when I attempt to use my Keystep Pro as Master with Ableton Ext on and Overbridge 2.0 VST on, I experience a 2 second delay before the Digitakt is triggered from starting the KSP (I put a midi cable between KSP out and DT in but it’s being ignored as soon as VST is on). Is there any way I can cut that delay? Any of you manage to make Overbridge work with external midi sync? Is it a feature that OB is supposed to support yet? Do I need to set specific parameters in OB, on the Digitakt menu itself and in Ableton? Cheers.
500 euro multiclock solutions are not on the horizon for me just yet
Digitakt probably has the same options as the Rytm in this regard but I would check the manual. Try going into either the digitakt menus or overbridge and choose "no sync"as shown above in the pictures. Make sure your digitakt accepts incoming midi clock, again in the menus somewhere. You’re going to want to play with delay compensation and track delays to make everything line up right on your DAW. I have a beatstep pro and it should start somewhat immediately (I clock a separate TR8S with it). It can get a bit complicated especially with latency and recording everything on grid but you’ll really have to read the documentation for each.
I posted about this topic elsewhere and found this thread today.
I’m puzzled at the recommendation to rely on two disconnected clock sources. In my case this would be the ERM providing MIDI Clock over DIN which is locked to the digital audio in my DAW (Logic) and another “clock” over USB for Overbridge.
