Just spent around 4 hours to copy 28 kits out of 128 from different projects, into one, prepping for a gig this friday. The worst is that them are only kits, have 128 patterns to copy after that. Recon I will need full 2 days just doing maintenance work. It’s really bad.
Any thoughts on how to speed up the proces?
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Did you use Transfer?
nope, i need kits and patterns, the transfer manages presets samples and projects.
I’m looking for kits that have control input modulation (own the AR from 2014, and have around 30 projects full of kits and patterns). So my workflow is - load up a project, go into the kit modulation page, then switch patterns until one pops up, go into the kit load window, copy the kit, load up the destination project, paste it there, save the project, load up one of the other projects again, and rinse and repeat. This also awaits me for the patterns. Five hours of this and am at kit # 34. Bummer
Im pretty sure their old transfer application - C6 - can save/load kits specifically. You should be able to find it still somewhere but I can DM you the .exe if you’re interested.
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Yes, C6 can receive/send kits over sysex. Should also work with other sysex librarians, I guess.
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And I still need to see which ones have the control input modulation assigned somehow. What about patterns?
You’ll still have to do that, yeah. I don’t see how any application is going to designate which have specific settings. Why not edit the name of the kits to indicate it?
It can transfer patterns too.
C6 can receive/send projects, sounds, patterns, kits, songs, globals and settings. You can choose to send all or only selected from the machine for backup and also selected patterns + their associated kits.
Check the Sysex Dump chapter in the manual.
If you transfer a pattern like this, what happens to its kit-association? Does it use the kit in same slot number?
I think it does. When I first started to work with C6 on my Elektrons, I made a test project and moved some stuff around. That helped a lot in understanding what would happen when…Haven’t used it in a while, tho.
…and with the Rytm, keep track of the samples if you’re moving anything sample related around.
Thanks. I should just try it out.
I don’t have enough material to faced this problem yet. The closest I got was turning a bunch of sketches into a live set. I did this by copying the whole sketches project then trimming and tweaking, rather than copying into the live set from multiple places.
Maybe I misunderstood you…IIRC it just replaces the pattern and links to the previously assigned kit.
So if pattern A01 had kit 005 assigned to it and you send a new pattern to A01, it will still have kit 005 assigned to it.
That’s what I meant 
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4 hours is making pretty good time imo, I mean, half a day to half organise a live set? I don’t see the problem. Yes it’s tedious boring work, but thats just what you’ve got to do sometimes. Even if it was 60 projects across Ableton sets, it’d still take you a good while to collate all that together and work out the performance structure. But yes agreed it might be nice to be able to just skim through a check box scenario of the entire data structure of a box, checking of kits, patterns, performance controls, sequencer, and then repopulating to a fresh project, but you’ll easily have this set built before that app is
you missread me, it was 4 hours for 12% of work done. that’s a bit too tedious for my tastes.
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and that is not to organize my live set, just the AR part of it.
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yeah I don’t disagree it’s a bit of a nightmare, it is what it is I guess. maybe a save to project pattern slot -> would be a useful feature. u’d still have to go through and extract everything. send a feature request direct to Elektron, maybe a transfer feature, u never know what might happen
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