Which is a bummer
And I agree, if anything was going to be called a “DAW in a box” it’s the M+
Other than being untethered, what’s the advantage of the M+ over the MK3?
Is a USB cable really worth it
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Funny to see that Akai and NI are releasing hardware which are technically as powerful as pc’s were 20 years ago with ported VST plugins and sampling engines in there with some dedicated controls and ask the same price for them as a new Macbook Pro.
The flaws of these integrated platforms is the compilcated part of being stand-alone AND be able to integrate with a computer. With Akai, we’ve seen a long time before they released Catalina compatible drivers for example, and there a still a lot of bugs (and promised features which never arrived) on both the stand alone MPC’s and Force, and the software itself. And how long will they keep developing the platform in the future?
Machine+ is actually copying the path of the new MPC’s (and the business model) by praising “their workflow” in a stand-alone form and be able to finish the song on your computer with the software. So how nice looking the device is: it’s still an outdated pc with dedicated controls, and we don’t know anything yet about how stable the platform is and what their roadmap will be.
So one quote sums it all correctly:
Coming from the MPC’s and now owning several Elektrons I can say that I find that much more valueable than VST plugins “ported” to a “stand alone” device.
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comments under the walkthrough video are brutal. maschine user are much angrier than elektron users.
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haha
It is, but for now just NI soundcards
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I read that to start you can use NI audio devices that bypass the soundcard and they plan to support third party interfaces in updates
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Hopefully latency - or lack off 
That is great.
Snap
Mmmmmm good for class compliant Elektrons… 
Don’t follow that logic. A VST is a digital synth, the Chord engine of the M:C is a digital synth, the DPro Ens engine in the MNM is a digital synth, the DN is a digital synth. It’s all just code… so why does it matter that one originated on a computer? Vague notions of Elektrons being streamlined products are dashed on the rocks of the hundreds of threads/comments of people struggling to get their head around the OT, or RAM machines in the MDUW.
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I don’t want one.
It looks like the sort of thing Will i. am would stand behind on x-factor pretending to play a tune on.
I don’t really use computers to make music (mainly because I’m an idiot and all that talk of buffers and latency and CPU makes my bum hurt) but I’m not really sure how this is better than M3. I’m probably wrong though.
Just my 2p.
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https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/maschine/production-systems/maschine-plus/
The urban market is still being driven hard. Akai vs NI vs different beasts. They will prob’ sell bucketloads.
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Having used Maschine for 10 years, and having seen how painfully slow development has been, I’ll sit this one out. The Maschine software has been flawed for years, it’s not really ready to be put into a standalone device IMO. NI have been promising certain features for years and are only just getting round to them.
I’d like to be wrong about this, a standalone NI device with built in plugins sounds awesome, but I’ll be more interested when it’s out in the wild and fully developed.
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And now finally Akai drop major os update to cover this announcement 
round one… fight !
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which MPC update are you referring to? I’m on 2.8.1 which has been out for a bit now.
Is there a newer update I missed? One you say that is in reacting to this NI announcement. hmmmmm
looking at timing of this thing it’s more like NI were targeting Keystep 37 lol
I wonder where the negative energy towards NI comes from. As a first hour user I am not happy with the way NI changed their profile from a pioneer in electronic software instruments to what is now a sample-library reseller. I don´t understand what market they try to target with the Machine +. It´s obvious that you will work with a computer at some point, if I understand it right you need to log the Machine + into your Native Access account (try that on stage in a club without WIFI). Unless you are happy to play the music you produced with the Machine to your cat only you have to bring the computer back into business. So why release a machine that costs three times more than the regular Machine? We will see if the Machine + gets a long time support or if it will join the party of the discontinued products (like Kore, Stems, etc).
The best way to become computerless : put a computer (outdated) into a controller (already existing)
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if I understand it right you need to log the Machine + into your Native Access account (try that on stage in a club without WIFI).
From the NI website. “You can use MASCHINE+ without a computer, but you’ll need a wireless internet connection and your Native ID to get set up.”
I doesn’t sound like you have to log in anytime you want to use it. It seems like it is the first time to set it up/register with your NI account.
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