Stereo sampler in DT form factor?

[captain8]

X=each pad

[Zelio]

Dirtywave M8. Seriously. Stereo samples, direct from the SD card, slicing, sampling, resampling, 2 enveloppes, 2 lfos (and so much more with the tables), effects, internal midi loopback (!), the sequencer is so much more powerful than the Elektron boxes…

And I’m not talking about the synths in there, the FM synth for example is as powerful (if not more) as the Digitone, Macrosynths, Wavesynth… (and the one that is coming will also be huge)

All in all, the M8 has a Monomachine vibe and an OT vibe that is really cool.

Also, Gotharman’s Little Deformer, it has been on my radar for a while now, seems like a really great crazy experimental sampler in a relatively small form factor. One day maybe, one day…

[Gerry_Dorsey]

I’ve found for me if I want to get true randomness with my samples I will sample lock the steps and then just turn down the track percentage. Same with the random midi lfo. Their random when it comes to those don’t seem so random for some reason.

[theobserver]

you also could use a S/H with random lfo to give any parameter random quality, like make it a different pitch or decay time everytime its hit within the lfo depths range.

to add to the discussion of other gear recs… i think you can make it work with elektron tbh but polyend stuff looks interesting to me and could probably accomplish it as well

[sezare56]

@Jeanne

I can plock the samples in order, but then it repeats exactely with the pattern. Of course, I can make the pattern longer.

Audio example ? Without real round robin, on DT as @DaveMech I’d also use a saw lfo on slots, bipolar, with a middle sample as reference. Eventually modulate the speed with lfo 2 or plock different speed with % condition.
On OT I’d use slices.

There are real round robin possibilities with midi loopback and midi processing (sending different slots/slices values consecutively each a specific note is received).

[Jeanne]

@sezare56

Audio example ? Without real round robin, on DT I’d also use a saw lfo on slots, bipolar, with a middle sample as reference. Eventually modulate the speed with lfo 2 or plock different speed with % condition.

… that of course also will lead occasionally to repeated samples, which makes it just a hard way to get the same-ish result as random lfo -> slot …

[sezare56]

Random or round robin ?

[Jeanne]

round 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3 … independed of the rhythmical values (trig positions)*.

(*Here I mean that if - for this example - I put a trig on 1 and 8, I would hear sample 1 and 2, not two times sample 1.)

(((I don’t care about the “round” as much as about not having the same sample too close. And with Elektron’s randomness, I hear much too often directly repeated samples (or synth ‘settings’ on other Elektron boxes).)))

[theobserver]

i found a video explaining the S/H thing i was talking about, i think you can go a long with with the same sample using humanizing techniques

My Secret Digitakt Shaker Technique (Humanising Shaken Percussion Grooves)

[Microtribe]

@Jeanne

It seems like Akai MPC One ticks all those boxes, except it’s much larger than a DT

Yes. And thats your trade off if those features are deal breakers for you.

Personally I find the digi boxes too small and cramped up.

[oieubbrgov]

Also if you don’t care about pads… half of the MPC is useless for you

[captain8]

nah that’s like saying a carpenter can’t build you the perfect chair because he can also build you a great table… just have’em make the chair… otoh if it doesn’t feel right then nothing will make it feel right, I understand that

MPC Live | Round Robin, Random, and Step Sequencer Tutorial

[tubefund]

Don’t know if i understand it right but is’nt this round robin do able with the Digitakt timestretch approach? What if you load a resampled pattern made with p locked desired sounds on equal divided steps into a slot instead of a breakbeat loop.

[Jeanne]

sorry to everyone & thanks for the well-meant advice, unfortunately these have nothing to do with round robin for multiple samples of one percussion instrument, i.e. i can only ignore them in order to not completely derail this thread about sampler hardware

[Tchu]

@Jeanne

robin

I never liked Robin anyways.

[Jeanne]

@Tchu

I never liked Robin anyways.

[Microtribe]

@Jeanne

round robin for multiple samples of one percussion instrument

There’s that native instruments machine thing, which is kind of hardware. Its large though some of the drum software uses round robin multi samples.

[Tchu]

So true (except for me/us).

[Clancy]

@Jeanne

So basically a really dumb sample player

Taking that literally then Blofeld with sample license can do all the requested stuff, weirdly

[Jeanne]

@Tchu

So true (except for me/us).

I’m actually surprised how much I don’t care when listen to other’s music*, but when I create a pattern with one-shot samples, it’s mortifying. The static overtones (which move around in physical modelling) kill me. My ears start to concentrate only on the loudest overtone “bing bing bing” …

*However, there was a record of an industrial (?) artist, very percussive, all one-shot samples. Good music, but I could not listen to it.