So I’m having this super odd issue/bug, that whenever I start up Ableton, the sound on track 1 on my Elektron A4, gets somehow transformed into a clicky sound. It seems like a double note as well, because whenever I change the sound preset on the track, it will be a double note, while the rest of the tracks seem unchanged.
When I go in Ableton, and press play I hear the clicky sound, when I select a track in Ableton, I hear the clicky sound. When I changed the preset in elektron to another sound and startup a new file in ableton, the sound on elektron gets transformed into the clicky sound again (also a weird glitching sound when booting the new file).
So I’m gonna try to lay it down as best as I can.
My setup:
Roland MX-1 digital mixer
Elektron A4
A. Drumbrute
A. Keystep
Novation Peak
I’m sending midi from the MX-1 trough drumbrute to the elektron. And the elektron is not connected to usb or anything. Also I haven’t changed anything in my setup, but somehow Ableton and Elektron decide to do this now, while everything seemed fine before. The MX-1 is the master, not ableton.
What the hell could this be, that only one track in the elektron gets affected by this, and that I haven’t changed anything in my setup?
Never been so confused before regarding Ableton and hardware. Let me know if you know any solution or what the heck I’m talking about, since I also have zero luck with googling this issue.
I’ve just uninstalled Ableton and installed it again, next to factory resetting my Elektron A4. But you guess it, again the same glitch is happening. How could this be? Where is the issue coming from?
@wouzer What do you mean with that exactly? The sound from the Elektron is send to the MX-1, and the MX-1 sound to my focusrite audiocard.
So I narrowed the issue down, it seems that whenever I turn off “midi note receive” and “receive CC/nrpn” it doesn’t seem to happen anymore. But this is strange, because this is by default turned on in the Elektron settings, and of course I want to use these settings. And now I have to turn this setting off everytime I want to use my Elektron. So there has to be something in Ableton or my routing that is wrong, but I don’t know what. I tried turning off all the midi settings in Ableton, but didn’t do anything. Somehow Ableton sends out midi to my Elektron when I click on anything inside Ableton, so when clicking the channels in ableton or whatever, it plays the note of track 1 of my Elektron.
And again, this all randomly happened, without me changing anything in my setup. I have to say I was quite stoned at the time, so maybe I accidentally changed something, but even then this issue is hella strange.
How is the computer integrated into the MIDI setup? Not at all?
This is already a complex setup, and it could be that either MX-1 or Drumbrute are sending some MIDI on channel 1 which is causing this behavior on the A4.
A typical approach would be to eliminate devices in the MIDI chain one by one until you find the cause. Then, once you’ve isolated the cause, try to figure out why it is doing what it is doing. Since the A4 seems to be doing this only on track one, that suggests something with track one and/or MIDI channel one on the other device(s).
Actually I was a bit wrong in my initial post, the MX-1 is sending midi with a midi split cable to my elektron A4 and the Drumbrute simultaneously, to deal with midi clock bleed in my setup. So it has to be coming from the MX-1 or Ableton, that is sending midi to channel 1.
I will try your approach and report back, thanks
I tried already turning off all the midi preferences in Ableton before, but that didn’t stop the issue.
How is Ableton integrated, MIDI-wise, into the setup?
I have seen various DAWs & sequencers that do send MIDI out when a track is selected (by clicking on the track or navigating between tracks via keyboard commands, etc). I can’t tell you what they’re sending, but I think sometimes it’s some variety of: program change, All Notes Off, MIDI volume, MIDI panning…
Hey, so I have pinpointed the issue down. It is happening because somehow on startup, Ableton changes the control surface setup, adding another unnecessary MX-1 selection that causes the Elektron to glitch when it’s sending unwanted midi to channel 1 on startup.
I followed a MX-1 ableton setup guide, like I did many times before, but now it is somehow adding another control surface setting on startup. And there is no way to permanently save the settings that you change in here.
So okay, I have found a hacky way to solve it. I just filled up all the control surface settings, so there is no room anymore for the random MX-1 setting that gets added. And it seems to work lol, hope it stays that way.
