Syntakt's synthesizer side is a little too simple(not a bad thing). st is more drum than 50:50 drum:synth

I’d probably buy that one. Maybe.

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I’m happy to talk about the things that piss me off about a lot of Elektron products.

I hate the way recording is set up on the Octatrack. Other people love it though, so it’s best that I understand that this is something that doesn’t work for me, rather than some hopeless design flaw that NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED IMMEDIATELY.

Didn’t like the AR too much, something about the overall sound didn’t work for me. Again, there’s plenty of people that love it, so that’s just my subjective experience.

It does irk me slightly that Elektron do have a bit of a tendency to release gear with things missing. I’d rather live in a world where a product isn’t released until it’s firmware is mature, that there’d be no need for firmware updates, as this paradigm is creating so much entitled feedback it’s becoming a little silly.

Most of the time, people on here get all, what you might call fanboy like, when they have to hear the same moans and complaints over and over again. Most of the arguing is not with the points being made, but the manner and frequency with which people think we need to hear them.

Saying shit that you know is going to be argued with, then crying about being argued with is peak keyboard warrior, and we should all be aiming for higher levels of conversation than that.

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Lol sarcasm? This thing sounds phat as fuck. Reminds me of the first time turned on the dt, really great sound quality on the digi boxes.

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it’s true man you can’t please everyone, for me the OT recording method is my favourite of all time and ruined everything else for me. It just clicked with me right. Love the free form method of using record trigs wherever you want for anything from just catching loops to weird live remix chopping stuff. The buffers are just insane compared to most other methods. But I totally get why that’s just a headache for a lot of people. It’s the saving on OT that does my head in. Unit wide auto save would be a blessing on there. slight tangent

but yeah. I agree. I wish we could just buy units as what they are but no company does that which leaves us wanting, but that’s why they do it isn’t it. Even if companies started to universally stop the update game and just release solid finalised units (absolute fantasy) then one company would just come along and start doing updates to get a leg up. Best people just be happy when an update does happen but don’t get sucked into the game. Moaning online is free advertisement, any publicity is good publicity unless you REALLY fucked up

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Hardly. I’m surprised your comment got 4 likes. :blush: Honestly, without the drum capabilities, it would be a pretty mediocre mono synth. It isn’t mainly trying to be one, at all.

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Asking for chorus, portamento and an arp is illigitimate complaints?

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Get ready for…. 3-5 years of updates on this thing. It’s gonna be a beast (and it already is) by the time Elektron are done with it.

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Edit: this comment was flagged as off topic, hence me adding this note to try to explain why I believe it’s not less on topic than the previous messages I was replying to. My intention is just to show some empathy to the OP, and I believe it should be absolutely OK to voice that feedback without it being written off as illigitimate.

I don’t mean to offend anyone - we’re discussing synthesizers, not politics - and I’m personally excited about the Syntakt despite its arguably less exciting melodic synth machines, because I have other synths for that part of the music job and wouldn’t buy the Syntakt as a one-box-to-rule-them-all kind of thing. But that doesn’t mean that I can’t sympathize and agree with some of the OP’s feedback about how the melodic machines could be improved. I’d LOVE to see a chorus effect and an arp, because I used that all the time on my Digitone. Which is (and I feel pressured to underscore this) 100% on topic. Thanks!

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I’d agree with that, and I agree with @avantronica that marketing copy shouldn’t be scrutinized so closely. And, when examining their text, they are clearly positioning it as drums first, melody second - Syntakt is a “drum specialist”.

The only phrase I can see get people fired up is “drum and melody in full fusion”. That is a bit of an exaggeration here. But with that said, Elektron is hardly misleading people because all their pattern demos are showing exactly what the Syntakt is capable of. So, use your ears and determine for yourself if you like the sound of it or not.

If I buy one, I’ll hook it up to my Hydrasynth Explorer for sure. That should be fun times.

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Ok, you win.

Genuinely made me laugh.

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Those are requests. And people are allowed to request whatever they like.

The complaint is a bit higher up in the OP saying that the synthesis isn’t as deep as the digitone or A4

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Fair enough. But that’s his feedback, and he should be entitled to voice it. If people disagree, that can either turn into debate or silence, either of which is all good.

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And I provided my feedback on his feedback. I didn’t say that he shouldn’t be allowed to voice it.

Meanwhile, you can’t throw a pebble in a pond and get upset at the ripples that are made.

Shit, I’ve been doing that for years. Stupid water.

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I’m imaging you doing this and I can’t think of any scenario of this happening without being followed by “I am so high right now…”

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Agreed. I bought a ST for what it does now but yeah, I’d be amazed if something doesn’t land down the road in terms of meaty updates. You can already see a handful of possibilities with it that on the face of it seem reasonably straight forward to implement/introduce.

Yes it was sarcasm of course :slightly_smiling_face: I agree that the Syntakt sounds really, really good!

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The OP obviously has poor English skills, yet almost everyone took the opportunity to tear them apart even after they tried to explain the communication was a bit off. If the ST eventually ends up getting portamento, chorus, and an arpeggiator, will that upset everyone?

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Reading just a little bit of this thread gave me headache.

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