I don’t think Roland has a Factory City with same output and cost efficiency as the world largest manufacturer of music gear.
Okay. Whose problem is that?
Chiming in a bit late in this discussion, but i don’t see the Behringer hate as unique in any way. I think it’s another unfiltered-internet-bashing kind of thing.
I have a pretty broad range of interests, and there is always a fair share of vitriol on the interwebz regardless whether the discussion regards sports, politics, religion, video games or who sleeps with who, how or why. There is always someone to blame for X. Music gear is no exception.
I feel good, I just received my Behringer td-3
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Lmao
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It’s also funny that Roland (Sh-3A), and plenty of other companies tried copying Moog back in the day. But now, that’s ok, that’s all in the past. Also, I was recently watching a video on Roland’s new Jupiter XM, and it has both Moog, and Sequential filter emulations. There are people brainwashed to vote for one party, and there are people brainwashed to vote for the other.
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Me…I’m cool with it so long as credit is given to those who paved the way for the clones.
Respect. (And if the originator is cool with it)
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I am not familiar with the Sh-3A so perhaps you can answer this for me. Did Roland design the Sh-3A or the Jupiter XM to look exactly like a Moog in layout with a name that is a play on any Moog product so they could brand it as said product?
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I don’t agree with you (at all) but still I don’t see why your comment should be flagged. Sorry about that.
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No, visually, they looked different. Which brings up a good question. Is it okay to steal a companies sound, but not the overall visual design? Personally, if they aren’t breaking any laws, then I don’t care either way. I grew up playing a Peavey Predator, which is a straight Strat knockoff. There was no way I could have afforded a Fender, so I am glad that Peavey was around.
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Would it be better if they stole the sound and put a different cover on it? Everybody would know what is inside.
And to one of the posts above: I don’t think any company would ever say “I’m cool with you cloning”
Not sure why that got flagged either. That post is def not outside guidelines.
No need to be sorry. Not your fault.
I wonder if this could be more democratic, and a post that was flagged could be greyed out as it is now for a given period, and be open to votes. If deemed acceptable, it could be unhidden.
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I vote for that feature.
Your post was on point.
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Not sure if the post should have been flagged or not, but it was pretty much the opposite of what the reality is…
In reality, no-one complained when there were expensive clones of Minimoogs etc (Creamware, Studio Electronics etc). It was only when Behringer, the root of all evil, started releasing good quality clones of classic synths for cheap prices, when the bashing and complaining began.
As a consumer, I have no idea why, I love what Behringer is doing. But that is how things actually are…
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You make a really good point, and I even bought a SE 1 in 1990ish, but unlike B they didnt build a business based on cloning current products like mackie mixers and Boss pedals. In the pedal world they have the same discussion Boss vs Behringer clones.
And the complaints didnt start with the synths, it started when B began making mixers.
Yes they do the consumers a big favour by making products available to consumers at a low price point based on reverse engineering. But what happens once they start making cheap Octatracks, Digitones and machinedrums, I am pretty sure a any $299 Elektron clone would sell like hot cakes and make everyone in here super happy.
I got a deepmind12d for 400usd last year. I use that machine more than all my other analog gear. I’d love to see a mk2 with audio in, multi timbral, and maybe a Wavetable oscillator (like on the Peak/ambika) or a macro oscillator (like on mutable instruments Plaits). I wish each of the oscillators volumes could be it controlled independently. Sequencer would be nice too!
But I think they gave credit to MOOG. And the cloning was en-mass. Tributes are a form of paying respect to. I don’t know if the ones you speak of were tributes tho.
I really want this thread title to change to The Behringera.
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You’re not alone in this, it hurts my eyes that it’s not 
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