The Syntakt Feature Request Thread

nooo way!!! :rofl:

Just to put things in perspective. Mutable Instruments just released a new Firmware for the Plaits Module which put 8 new Oscs on it, letĀ“s say 8 new ā€œMachinesā€, and they are all programmed by one person. She just puts it out there without making a big deal out of it. No Plaits days needed to release two of the new Oscillators.

So this begging for specific machines is kind of annoying when there is so much potential in syntakt. People begging for MD and MNM Machines, Physical Modeling Machines, whatever. Simply because itĀ“s digital and could be so much more. Just open the damn thing up when you just want to put out a minimal amount of new machines.

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There is a big difference hardware wise between plaits and the elektron devices. Plaits likely has roughly the same (or maybe more) processing power as a digitakt. But only has to run one synth engine, with no sequencing or effects. It is much easier to quickly write synthesis algorithms when you have that overhead. Elektron have to write their stuff extremely efficiently in order to pack as much into these aging chips in the digi boxes. That means that developing those algorithms is much more time intensive and much more difficult. But also there is no telling how long this firmware update for plaits has been in development, it might have been in development since plaits came out 4 years ago.

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2 years development she said, but on and off and just occasionally. She is ONE person. And Elektron do make one Week party for two new machines. Just to put it in perspective, I like both the new ones. But open that thing up. ItĀ“s just wasted potential and odd.

The algo doesnĀ“t change as much. itĀ“s the quality of the processing thats affected by lesser powered chips. maybe you have to write it a different language but algos for certain things are algos for certain things. itĀ“s math and logic. shure you can write good or bad code, but believe me, ƈmilie from Mutable writes extremely efficent code.

The algorithm might be the same but implementing it bug free in assembly is a much different task than implementing it in c++. And with the sequencer being such a massive integrated part of the device, I really doubt elektron could ā€œjust open that thing upā€ without it causing them a whole ton of support headaches. For better or worse Elektron want complete control over the code that runs on their machines. I think you will be disappointed for a long time if you expect them to ever open up.

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For sure if Elektron will do something like the physical informed synths in the Machine Drum, it will be written from scratch and a ā€œ2.0 versionā€ :wink:

Swarm and Raw give me high hopes for the future of the Syntakt.

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Really the big difference is that these are two different eras and methodologies of making digital music instruments. The digi series is based on an older paradigm, Iā€™m guessing running lots of fixed point integer math for the DSP. Plaits is a more modern method using more off the shelf arm chips and floating point DSP. The difference between floating point and integer arithmetic alone is massive. Integer arithmetic DSP is much more efficient, but much more difficult to write. Floating point isnā€™t nearly as efficient, but with modern chips the ease of writing new algorithms outweighs the efficiency cost. I donā€™t know for sure, but if elektron mostly uses integer arithmetic for the DSP, it would be far from trivial for someone to write their own machines.

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Not sure if itā€™s been mentioned. And I realize that physical limitations make it impossible to give the Syntakt individual outs, but it would by so tight if a ā€˜Cue Modeā€™ was added. Where you could have a group of tracks sent out of the headphone output. This would make playing live more fun, but you could also get a send out for external effects, or sampling.

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I have been daydreaming about an ā€œoverbridge boxā€ that could plug into the syntakt (or whatever digis) and have individual outputs. I know someone was working on the idea but something tells me that reverse engineering overbridge functionality would be a huge pain.

Dusted off the digitakt after using the syntakt only for months. Wow, I had no idea how good the syntakt FX track was. I have to do midi loopback to p-lock or LFO my delay parameters? whatā€™s next, I have to brush my own teeth, too? My guess is elektron will do digitakt / digitone mk2ā€™s one day that catch up to the syntakt.

A really simple oneā€¦ for the trig plock to be able to quantise to the keyboard scale. At the moment if you press func it goes up in octaves, but notes of a scale would be so much more useful. It would make it really easy to transpose patterns up a third or fifth and create harmonies on different tracks etc

Ah OK I see, weā€™re talking about two different things. On the DT I can switch the external input to two mono inputs that can be individually mixed, panned and have delay and reverb individually applied. Being able to use the DT as a mixer for two external mono sources is pretty handy.

Not possible on Syntakt as of latest firmware, although I imagine itā€™ll be coming.

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No, weā€™re talking about the same thing, but I wasnā€™t clear. I precised ST has dual mono possibility, and I meant it lacks individual settingsā€¦(I had DT and DN having these features).

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It would be good to have the option to set conditional trigs to be false rather than true for the ratios. For example, an 8:8 setting in a 4 bar loop, would mute the last 4 bars.

Not sure if thereā€™s a workaround for this as I havenā€™t really explored NEI, 1st conditions yet.

I think you can do it with trigless trigs and the !PRE trig condition.

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Just tested this out and It works just how I need it to! Gonna explore more but loops already sounding much less loopy! Many thanks :slight_smile:

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I forget if I already made this request, but it would be awesome if it was possible to group certain tracks to an Overbridge track ā€œstereo pairā€ so it would retain the p-locked panning of steps.

Example: you have two percussion tracks 3+4. Rather than having them both stemmed out as two separate mono track, this would give you the option to sum them both into one stereo track instead.

  1. Allow Pitch Bend and Mod Wheel to pass through the midi machines to external synths.
  2. Be able to quantize the retrigger function.
  3. Allow for midi machines to be saved so you donā€™t have to reformat them per machine, per pattern, per project, etc. For example, you can have the the settings for a specific piece of hardware saved and pull up that midi machine setting from a pool.
  4. Allow for assigned note values to trigger track mute on/off.
  5. Allow for CC assignments to be saved as setting that you can recall. For example, a global settings template for track volume, would be nice.
  6. The ability for parameters to slide between values from one automation trig to the next.
  7. Midi Sync out can be a MIDI through.
  8. Another crisp, non-metallic hat machine.
  9. Ability to separate the inputs into two mono inputs.
  10. Compressor and/or limiter on the tracks and master with side chain routing.
  11. Boost gain for tracks coming through Overbridge. I canā€™t fathom why they are so low.
  12. Something like kits. I want to be able to create a string of patterns with my sound design the same on all the patterns (if I choose) without the flow-killing work-around of going back and pasting the sounds.

If any of this can already be done someone pleeazsee let me know.

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No requests here thanks!

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