Tone users, why would you need a takt?

i went to test the DigiTone today…

damn, i am blown away!

why would I still want to keep my digitakt? … my 8 min play time or so, seemed that all the sounds I ve been making with the digitakt, I could easily produce with the tone …

except vocal samples or field recordings…

damn, i just given myself the answer …hahah LOL

so

Acoustic drums, or any samples for that matter. Kind of apples and oranges. If you use either as just a midi sequencer then there’s overlap but other than that they’re completely different machines

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yeah … i was totally thinking in terms of techno

Because you may find 4 tracks limiting if you only use Digitone. Even with sound locks and poly config. 4 tracks is 4 tracks.

I’ll do a lot with just the Digitone by itself, but once I need to get some voices back and build more layers to finish a tune, I offload some sounds, especially percussion, to my OT MKII, though a Digitakt would also work in this way.

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good point!

I’m still of the mindset of rather having two Digitones than one Digitone and one Digitakt.

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lets hope you not run into wanting field recordings like human voices or barking dogs

As much as i like my Digitone i find sampling to be the #1 tool in my arsenal.
Frankly i can’t imagine working without sampler and DT provides so much fun in this matter.

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I can just sequence any sampler and run it through the audio inputs for the occasional samples. I’m doing that with an Gotharman Anamono X right now, but could picture doing it with something like a Boss SP-303 as well.

There’s something really satisfying about molding all types of sounds with the Digitone (particularly percussion) that I would usually turn to samples for.

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The Digitone is awesome, but the Digitakt is still the better interface- you could more quickly build a track solely with a Digitakt than solely a digitone.

FM is really cool for synthesizing your own sounds over a broad range, but it’s still REALLY cool to be able to manipulate real world sounds. Not to mention, you’re able to take sounds from your Digitone or your iPad or from a radio or whathaveyou and work some digimagic.

At the very least, you could take 8 different percussive patches from the digitone and sequence a complicated rhythm on the Digitakt.

There are plenty of reasons to own both- it feels quite obvious from my perspective.

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A Digitakt + Digitone is the obvious choice for most. That’s why I thought my less obvious perspective might be of value.

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Atypical is good!

One other good thing about the DT+DN combo is sampling everything you want to out of the DN with 8 voice unison. (Even better with OT for stereo sampling)

Big sound is big!

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You still get a bit of the magic and power of the stacked voices and detune. But yea, the pan spread helps as well. I wish the pan spread was more customizable on the DN, but simplicity wins out on the Digi-line, and for good reason.

I’m more like “Takt users, why would you need a Tone?” instead, because there are tons of wonderful FM synthesis options available in soft synths that you could sample/sequence/modulate with the DT, and it’s not like there are any obvious reasons digital FM on hardware sounds ‘better’ than digital FM in software. But, at the end of the day the Tone is very intriguing, and the form factor and workflow of a Tone+Takt sounds like heaven to me. I just think the Takt is the endlessly deep and flexible piece of kit, not the other way around :slight_smile:

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One could actually get by with just a DN. I think if you think about it as your main one, then what the Digitakt provides is a little added variety, flexibility, and luxury. It allows you to back off the locked sounds a bit, and spread your percussion out. It allows you to bring in some samples that aren’t easily synthesized (vocal perhaps, and if you’re doing the techno thing, depending on the style, you might like this for bringing in those sci-fi lines :smiley: ) It gives you some extra MIDI channels to play with as well. You can also run the DT through the DN’s audio inputs, and it really becomes one full-sized, full featured Elektron experience.

I like to play with one or the other on its own, and do little exercises like “how much can I squeeze out of this one box with no multitracking” for example. However, in general, I find myself drawn toward using the two together because they really just flow together that well. (even at the expense of leaving some of the other gear on the table out, even though it’s all sitting right there, plugged in, synced up, etc.

I haven’t been as impressed as I am with the Digi-Pair for a long time where synths are concerned. Maybe when I first got my XTk, or when I built my first modular or something, but these things REALLY work nicely together, and allow creativity to just flow out without getting in the way.

I sound like a commercial now, but that’s pretty much what I think.

It IS like heaven and is very rewarding to have so much sonic potential in such a small area. Comparing to my old 4 Elektron setup(heck, even my A4 + MD combo) it’s just so much quicker and efficient- like you can keep your eye on one machine while making alterations on the other- bouncing back and forth on the machines is SO darn fluid!

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That’s exactly it. It’s two separate devices that do their own thing, but come together as a single unit as well. You really can just have a hand on one, making some changes/evolutions while you’re actually working on the other one more intently. It’s pretty cool.

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If I could only have one I’d go for the tone… But if I could have two I’d certainly add the takt…
I’d probably make all sorts of samples of the tone with the takt, probably more percussion and drums and sequence those on the takt saving tone tracks for bass and melody… But also sample melodies and things so I could target slice points when sequencing, and do things like reverse and shift rate down…

I’d hook each one’s midi out to the other’s midi in, to be able to sequence fx changes, send midi lfo’s to modulate things both ways, and have alternate sequences to mix and match. You can play the devices internal sequence, or mute that and send that track a midi sequence, or you can have them both going at the same time. That gives three variations per track…

And like you said field recordings but also its just good to have a sampler around. Instead of being locked into pure synth sounds, if you ever get the idea to add any sound you can do it. Vocal clips, thunder/rain, crickets in reverse at half speed with reverb, an orchestra, comedy routine, whatever…

Of course it sort of sounds like you might be fine just using the tone and milking it, I say go with your gut feeling. But you asked what we would do, so that’s what I would do…

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from what i have listened to on the internet, drum samples simply sound next level awesome on the Digitakt. this may be incorrect or just an over-enthusiastic imagination.

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