Two note trigs on one step... what’s actually happening?

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#1

Interesting…
I doubled up a kick and a snare using microtiming so that both are played simultaneously. Am I right in hearing a slight difference in how they sound together, versus how they sound individually?

What’s actually happening here? - are the two voices being played in exactly the same way as if they were being played on two separate tracks? Or are the two sounds being effected by each other because theoretically they are two trigs being played one step after the other?

(For clarity, I should mention the kick is placed and trigged on step 4, and the snare is placed on step 3 with microtiming late to trig on step 4.)
Cheers.

#2

They are not exactly on one step, the are one tick in the microtiming screen apart. Maybe you hear the slightly different timing?

#3

Yes I wonder if that’s it. But then would the two sounds effect each other? Or are they purely separate?

#4

They are seperate. Do you trigger them with alternating trig conditions (e.g. 1:2 for the kick and 2:2 for the snare) then it’s probaply just the slight timing difference.

This technique works best with slower tempi, but some people are more sensitive to timing issues than others.

#5

Nope. Merely micro timing the snare to trig a whole step later. I think (and I may be wrong) they are playing at exactly the same time. If the micro timing is all the way to the right, wouldn’t that play on the very next step? Or is it a tiny bit early?

#6

You should be able to play them at the same time.
Step 3 microtiming +23
Step 4 microtiming - 1

At 120 bpm, +1 microtiming = 5ms.
(0,5/4/24)

#7

I would have said they will affect each other’s sound in as much as there might be some phasing or masking going on.

#8

I think they are playing at the same time. And yes, definitely effecting each other in some way. But I like that. I just wasn’t sure if this is to be expected - or if it’s more about simple waveform physics.