Why has no one built the perfect sampler yet?

Spoiled by the 404/MPC/deluge/OT probably doesn’t help. I have purchased way to many samplers. I have a problem!

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Backups are for the weak. :crazy_face:

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I would love an EPS-16+ if it were the size of a Reface.

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100% this!

Said no IT guy ever! Hahaha!!

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all things considered it’s a good problem to have

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if it was an exact replica that would be dope, I didn’t get on with the Korg microsampler that well

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Actually im in IT, Client stuff gets backed up, but i dont back up anything of my own.
I have a giant file dump, but its not a backup.
When my data goes byebye, i honestly could care less.

Theres nothing i have less sympathy or care for is when someone calls me and give me “muh data…muh pictures!” about some shit on their phone.

“Youre already a social media addict and you post 90% of your life online…just go redownload them. Besides 1/2 of you camera roll is things you ate. No one cares…”

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Hahaha!!!

Neither did I, on the whole.

But there were some things about the Microsampler that I adored. Especially the size and the sampling workflow.

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Beatsurfing2 with sample import is in early release, btw. Available on the appstore.

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I’m surprised nobody mentioned the Yamaha MODX in this whole thread.
It has 128 voices over 16 parts for the sample engine, a 16 track sequencer and a ton of effects and modulation options.

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I think Bitwig on iOS would be the perfect sampler, in some ways

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I have a friend who has been searching for a keyboard sampler for a few years now. He’s a fairly serious players, into jazz, R&B, gospel, etc. MODX was one of the candidates.

His problem with the MODX was the keyboard action.

Last we spoke, he had just gotten a Wavestate for it’s support for user samples. He talked me into getting one for myself. I like mine but his unit had a loose screw, so he returned it to the store. He was going to apply the credit he got for it towards a Korg Nautilus.

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I get why the Korg Nautilus is attractive, it has a whole bunch of synthesis options with up to 200 voices and a 60GB SSD. That’s pretty impressive specs.

But somehow in every demo I listen to there is something about the sound that I don’t like.
So I’m going to save up for a MODX, but if you like the sound of the Nautilus it’s a very good deal.

I think those budget friendly workstations are a good deal anyway, where else do you get 192 or 200 voices for that price? I’m getting a bit tired of yet another 8 or 16 voice digital synth or sampler.
I actually just ordered a Mininova, it’s small, fun, runs on USB power and has up to 18 voices.
And it’s a lot cheaper then some digital synths with half the options.

Sometimes I feel like we’re travelling back in time, 64 or 128 voices used to be standard for a lot of digital instruments. Apart from the shortages, processing power and memory has never been this cheap. But somehow we only see the higher voice counts in the workstations, and there also seems to be a big gap between these and synthesizers/samplers. Only Korg has closed the gap a bit with the Wavestate, Opsix etc., but for instance Waldorf seems to go backwards.

Anyway, I too wish for a hardware sampler more like the E-MU E4 Ultra, but with a modern screen, USB audio & midi and maybe some form of network audio like AVB or Dante.
Looking at the workstations Yamaha, Korg and Roland have been producing for years this should be entirely possible. Just ditch the synth engines, expand the sampling options a bit, give it a modern touch screen and some controls and put it in a rack or desk unit.
So basically a Behringer X32 rack with a better screen, but it’s a sampler, and not from Behringer.

I agree about the limited selection of hardware sample players in a module/desktop format - specifically samples designed for keyboard-mapped multi-samples with velocity switching/fading, decent number of layers for velocity switching, etc.

I’m sure my friend would have bought a MODX if it were available in module form, as he also loves well-crafted FM presets. The feel of the keybed is very important to him and the MODX not having a keybed that he liked was a deal-killer.

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Throwing some crazy ideas around.

  1. A dual sampler with both retro and hi-fi signal paths. Crossfading between these could be awesome. Or dumb. Or both.

  2. A sampler with wi-fi and cloud sync. Because managing samples on hardware sucks. You manage the sample library on your PC and everything syncs automatically, you don’t even have to bother connecting it to the computer.

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I think I understand the logic of manufacturers.
-Most people will use a DAW for complex multisample instruments.
-Those who don’t either dislike DAWs or want something for live use.
-If you dislike DAWs, you probably want a complex sequencer, multi-timbrality and FX. —If you’re a live player you probably want a decent keyboard.
-Multisamples, complex sequencer, multi-timbrality + decent keyboard = workstation. It’s how they capture the two most relevant groups.

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don’t need a keyboard, but also don’t need a “groovebox” for my DAWless setup. everything is run from Pyramid so i just need the ability to trigger loops, one-shots, and multisamples on discrete MIDI channels, while also staying sync’d to Pyramid’s internal tempo. i thought Blackbox could get me there but it doesn’t seem quite robust enough so I’m likely switching to MPC One.