Why has no one built the perfect sampler yet?

If you look at the Nave plugin from Waldorf, that one has become the starting point of an hardware synth the Waldorf Quantum.

Electron should do a proper polyphonic stereo sampler for sure.
With the reverb algo of the Model Samples. The little keyboard of the A4 MK2. The X-fader and slicer and ping pong looper of the octatrack.
With proper sampler I mean: layering/zones and keygroups. Sample start offset per zone etc…

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No! Still one of the best samplers, sounds amazing, was used on many and many cult records. It’s really cool for soundscapes!

Also want one, if only it could b updated with modern memory and hd!

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Current MPC range has had some of the best firmware updates of any product I’ve seen and has gone way beyond what it originally offered. 2.10 includes a huge amount of features and more is expected to follow. Having the X, Live and One all at different price points and running the same firmware is a very good move. I don’t think anyone in the current market can compete with what they’re offering but there is definitely room for others offering different things.

For example, if Elektron brought out a new Digitakt with removable storage, I’d buy one tomorrow.

Behringer have yet to release a sampler but there are plenty of old classics from Emu, Ensoniq, etc, for inspiration.

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This is one of the strangest reasons for not buying a DT that I’ve ever seen. It’s mainly a one-shot or short loop kinda sampler. There’s simply no need to have gigs of samples on it or to switch to different libraries constantly.

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Their PPG will be the first, whenever it comes.

So like a sort of OctaRytm4? That would be baller! Something I like about to OT (even though the card is old tech) is the dead simple file management. Plug into computer/phone and bam it’s a mounted drive. No need for transfer.

One thing I like a lot with the Blackbox is how dead simple sampling is. OT, even with muscle memory is a chore. I also like the grid for keys (pick scale).

As @darenager has said though the combos are where it’s at.

OT + PT + BB is good but that’s 3 kits…

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depends on how you use it, if they up’t the storage /removable, added slicing, and stereo capa-billy… I’d buy it too

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Sure, but that’s an Octatrack, so ain’t gonna happen.

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ouch!.. I’m hoping that other guy in the room says, but that’s what you said about the Digitakt but the model samples was a great idea

I’m not sure what your point is here, sorry. M:S and DT are sufficiently differentiated to sit side by side for different budgets. And Elektron won’t want to cannibalise OT sales by giving DT some of its major selling points while it’s still in production. Regardless, I’d rather see them reimagine the OT than the DT.

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I think people are too sensitive about the octatrack for them to go that route, I think they’d reimagine the digitakt before the octatrack, the octatrack is what it is and even people who claim the mpc is too convoluted love the octatrack just how it is… I think they will leave that legacy alone.

I think the question is is there a market for more storage, removable storage, different textured pads, and more capability that is still not an octatrack but under the elektron banner… I think so

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Yeah, maybe not an OT MK3, but a totally new flagship sampler. Despite starting this thread, I’ve rediscovered that the DT workflow is amazing for getting an idea down quickly and being mono is one of the main reasons it sounds punchy as a mf. I wouldn’t want them to mess with that side of things by adding too many new features, options, and stereo sampling. Whereas OT is definitely showing its age in a few different ways, re the FX, time stretching algorithm, and so on.

hopefully they could do it without losing what the digi is already capable of in the process… I for one will be buying whatever they come up with but will never let the digi go

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Imagine the A4 MK2 being a multi timbral polyphonic stereo sampler :heart_eyes:
It would be a dream unit

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Back in the early 1980s when we owned a record store i was huge Human League fan. They hadnt released a single for a while so when news that they had returned from their travels abroad with something called a ‘FairLight’ it was really exciting to see how it sounded. They released a track called Keep Feeling Fascination and we played it over and over. Never heard anything like it before.

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We’re approaching 2022. It’s really unusual to have a sampler that doesnt have removable storage.

The ability to change sample pools quickly and easily without having to connect to a computer is actually pretty desirable, hence pretty much every other sampler through the history of samplers offering this, including many that are cheaper than the DT.

Also - there was no mention of not buying a DT, merely the suggestion that it can be improved and remains an option.

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or since!

I always wished I could hear parliament cover that song, fascination is some funky sh*t, and the human league is one of those groups often imitated but never duplicated

This is exactly why I won’t purchase a DT. I understand the it’s a sampler stance but having to rely on a direct connection to a PC to manage internal storage or backup is not for me.

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Fair enough. I just never considered it as a factor, I guess. I don’t use samples (only what I record directly into it) and never back up haha.

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