1010music Bluebox

I never use the compressor as it just exaggerates the ground noise I get from the bluebox.

As for the last beta, I’d love this to be ‘final’ released but it was way too buggy for me (kept going into error after a few minutes of recording).

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Hey thanks for replying, wasn’t sure there was anyone from 1010 here :slightly_smiling_face: The official forums for the BlueBox are a bit slow & empty.

Anyhow, totally understand you’re a small team, since the nanobox devices came out it seems to have taken what little development the BlueBox ever had. Hopefully the team find time to get the current version out of beta someday and the manual gets some love.

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Thanks some great tips here. (and in the other replies, thanks guys)
I’m aware of the differences between a buss or mastering compressor and something that goes over each track. However being aware is one thing, making it sound good in practice is something completely different! :laughing:

I’ve dropped the gain to around +2dB and played with the threshold and ratios to get things a lot more transparent with some A/B testing. That’s helped a lot! I guess I’ve been spoiled with my old janky Behringer mixer and it’s one-knob compression!

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Lotsa good tips here, I have some new gear coming I’m planning on routing through the bluebox for a mini setup I’ll give these compressor ideas in the thread a try.

Now that the Blackbox big update is out, I hope that they’ll finally work on the big outstanding issues of the Bluebox… Given the frequent crashes and freezes due to MIDI, I hope that the new improved MIDI routing from the Blackbox will also make it to the Bluebox.

No log curve for the faders volume still makes it almost unusable when midi controlled, meanwhile they chose to add quadraphonic support that nobody ever requested in their last update ¯\(ツ)

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agreed. log curve on faders is need it.

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The crashes (albeit rare) after an hour live-jam recording break my heart!

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@Uzinusa have you reported it in the 1010 forums? The more we voice and upvotes issues there, the more chance we get to see it fixed one day.

QoL issues are one thing, but crashes when using MIDI or recording are completely unacceptable.
I’m using my BB in a live setup, and I’m always fearing that it might crash in the middle of my set…

There’s no real alternative though for the features/size.

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@sinedied @Uzinusa Under what conditions do these crashes occur, I have used midi with my Bluebox and not had any issues so far, but are we talking midi sync in, midi sync out, CC controllers in or just midi generally?

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I have been MIDI controlling/modulating some parameters simultaneously (like 8-10 at the same time), looping CC’s with my Bastl MIDI Looper and almost never experienced any crash. If I rarely had issues, I suspect it rather came from a jamming the looper with too much MIDI data.

(nothing to do with sync, though)

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WILCO and I should have done earlier. We were using it to provide transport/clock so MIDI out only. 4 x stereo instruments and not even using effects, EQ etc. It doesn’t happen often…but of course if I’ve not saved then it’s all gone.

Still one of our favourite devices mind you.

I also just use it very sparingly. I actually leave the ratio up, but move the threshold to around -8db or higher to maybe -3db. So it’s barely touching the signal. I prefer it on to off when it’s used like this. At it’s default settings, it’s more or less unusable unless your signal levels are pretty low. It’s definitely not a bad compressor at all. Just needs a light touch.

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Just using midi sync/transport (in) has been enough to generate UI freezes for me after a random amount of time. There’s a whole topic in 1010 forums about that specific issues and multiples reports, has been going on since 1.03 or something, and they claimed to have fixed it in 1.2.12 but people are still experiencing it after that. For me it seems to be ok, I’ve not tested under stress for more than 2h since then though (used to freeze before the 1h mark before).

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I don’t typically use transport on mine, but it’s connected to Elektrons which are sending it out. I’ve never had a crash, so maybe transport actually has to be enabled on the channel that would be receiving it on the BB? (would make sense, but just adding a data point here) I’ll try changing the MIDI channel next time I’ll be sitting there for a while, and see if anything happens. I think I would have noticed though with how often I have things changed around in the sync/transport departments with using different subsets of gear with the BB. Happy to report back though if I notice it, just as more information.

The only real issue that I had (which has been fixed at some point) was that I’d get some weird digital distortion if the BB had been on for a really long time. (like several hours) Hasn’t done it for the last few firmwares I’ve tried though.

We did have a bug there we fixed in a recent firmware build. I’d have to go back and check release notes to remember which version. Anyway, heaven forbid anyone sees it again, but if they do please post at https://forum.1010music.com/forums and let us know.

As for @sinedied’s observation, yeah, we’ve been looking into the reported MIDI issues; nothing to report yet. We’ll follow up in the discussion thread on the 1010music forum with any information.

Thanks for using our products. It’s very gratifying for me to pop up on other forums like thus one and see how people are using our products, and what they like most/least about our work.

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I won’t record my hardware with anything else now :wink:

Unless a Bluer Box came out :smiley:

I’ve contemplated getting a second one.

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Is anyone resampling on the bluebox with outboard gear? The built-in stuff doesn’t cover my needs, but if the resampling process isn’t too tedious I might still be game. The objective is to take a segment of audio and process it on external gear and place that back into the same track in as few steps as possible. I may also need to compensate for latency with some effects, but I don’t mind doing it manually if it’s not a whole ordeal.

One other thing that isn’t clear to me is whether the EQs can be midi mapped. The one on the blackbox can’t be afaik, but I don’t think that’s anything to go by.

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unfortunately no midi cc can’t be is intentional by 1010 music developers . a feature that any mixer with midi has only the 1010music won’t allow it.

eq midi cc has been requested for so long still no signs on bring that one.

f’real? I did find this in the meantime:

which seems to show midi mapping of eq params.

I didn’t ask for this feature on blackbox because it’s not as useful on the master. Would still be desirable, but nowhere near the top 10. Per-channel would easily be in the top 3 though.

I’ve done it a few times. It’s a bit fiddly but it works. And it’s fiddly cause you got a lot of control, which I like.

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