Analog 4 sync not so tight

Curious -

I’m syncing the Analog 4 to Ableton 9.2 via OB version 1. My patterns are on the A4.

When I go to record the pattern into a blank slot in Ableton, the audio from the A4 is slightly ahead of time - see photo below.

The buffer size on the A4 and within Ableton are identical.

Curious what’s going on. Can any one help with this?


Thanks,
Adonis

Same Problem. Even weirder that sometimes within the same session the delay disappears…

Although not the most elegant solution - currently I’m using Live’s quantize feature on my recorded clips.

Ideally I’d like to sequence my beats on the machines themselves, record clips into Live then jam on the Launchpad Pro.

Unfortunately with the weird sync issue, I’m having to adjust (quantize) my recorded clips. This workflow isn’t a too much of a hassle, but kind of annoying.

By currently, I mean as of this morning :slight_smile:

Interstingly enough - both AR and A4 are perfect in sync if the option ‘sync to host’ was turned off. The manual says it could run out of sync but it doesn’t, even for several hundered bars, even after start, stop and rewind, it works perfect without

Yeah, I’m seeing the same thing. With the AR synced in OB my audio is not in sync - it comes in ahead of time (I’ve tried with Ableton monitor set to Auto and Off - same result).

I’m going to stick to using my Usamo! Much tighter.

Is the audio from the VST or an external soundcard? Have you turned off the MIDI sync in Ableton? What happens after you restart the unit?

Hi Olle,

in my case: Audio from external, OB-Setup: only Main in/out activated.
LIVE: Channel monitoring off.

OB-manual says, that all sync from external will be ignored if ‘sync to host’ was enabled - seems right, I watched no clock-effect if sync-port was on or off.

I had the same experience this afternoon. The recorded audio from A4 was slightly ahead of the beat.

I find that I get this same thing when I have my sound card buffer higher than 512, like if I put it to 1024 ect… Try putting all your sound cards to 256 or 512 see if that works.

A negative drive compensation time in ms has tightened it all up for me.

You can set it in the preferences.

The VST compensate both for latency in control and in audio. If you are not using the audio from the VST you will get a negative or positive latency, since the audio will be compensated as if it came from the unit and not your external sound card.

Try to set you external sound card buffer size to the same as in the plugin or set a track delay.

I’m not understanding your first paragraph.
I assume the audio is coming from the VST with individual tracks routed from the VST. That’s how overbridge works, correct?
I’m not using my soundcard. .
When I record the A4 to audio the notes are slightly ahead of time.

What? Isn’t your A4 (or AK or AR) your “sound card” when you use Overbridge? In other words, in Ableton, isn’t the “Audio Device” your A4? Isn’t the “Audio Device” the same as the “sound card”?

The sync is bumming me out

I’m recording in the DAW using the Rytm.

There’s clearly a delay in the first beat and all subsequent beats (see below)


But when I cut the first beat to be on the one…


The subsequent beats fall out of sync


What’s going on here?

IIRC, Ableton adds a delay to the audio if you record into a monitored track. Try turning off the track monitoring. Set it to “none” or whatever. Just NOT “auto” or “input” or whatever. That might explain why you are getting late audio. Not sure why it would be early as you mentioned in your OP. See also the below link. I think this may be documented somewhere in Ableton’s site.

[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]https://m.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/16un1n/to_anyone_recording_audio_into_ableton_live_a/

Thanks, but that doesn’t work :frowning:

Monitoring’s off, beats are not sync’d on the beat


Strange yours is early. Mine is showing slightly late. That’s with the AR.

The overbridge plugin seemed to upset Live 9.2 plugin compensation for me. In order to record from my soundcard in time, I had to have quite a large negative drive delay compensation (like - 52ms).

I have gone back to the AK in non overbridge mode for now. My drive compensation is back to a delay of 2.3ms.

Very odd. The AR is late and A4 is early. This makes me think the issue isn’t with Ableton but rather Elektron’s sync.
I’ve turned off the sync to DAW for now. It’s one thing to nudge four tracks from the A4, it’s another to nudge eight tracks on the AR. Kind of a buzz kill.
I’m sure it’ll get sorted out, maybe.
Thanks
Adonis

A4 audio is slightly early for me as well, have follow all instructions in terms of setting the buffer sizes and all of that, think it’s just a bug.