Tbh i don’t see elektron delivering much. The update are lacking to say the least…
And they want to save a few bucks everywhere rather than sell the unit 100$ more.
It’s hella stupid and i wish more people gave them the shit for it it would push them to do something.
In 2021/22 with the mobile processor available there are no reason why they don’t collab with an FX maker (if they don’t know how to do it) To deliver way more FX (Fx per tracks Reverb/Delay/Chorus/Phaser/flanger/Overdrive/Compression) Heck even people who dev for eurorack on the spin FV1 deliver good quality fx but elektron can’t get their shit together.
I really hope someone come to mess up the drum machine market because it’s a joke.
The tr-8s looks and feels like something from 2003 with the shitty screen.
And the lack of sample storage memory of these boxes is a joke, especially considering, if what this guy says is true https://youtu.be/krhmcrX-jKk?t=363 the memory capability is actually 4gb and the machine has been deliberately gimped to only use 1gb. That’s just plain wrong imo. This is DT but I’m sure the same situation is happening with the AR2.
No it’s just one example. I don’t get why they bottleneck everything and doesnt collab on stuff.
When i look at what squarp were able to do with the hapax i don’t get how elektron miss the shot.
The need to improve the analog engine. Add digital FX, improve build quality and the screen.
That would be sweet tbh. It’s not like it’s that hard… I’m know people who dev hardware stuff and it’s a choice they make to do low/mid quality products (for the price they charge i think it’s not there at all tbh…)
The digitone is a nice unit they did right. The octatrack is decent but again where are the nice screens ? We already look at a screen why not use a better one with colors and a layout that was thought about…
Idk i don’t want to sound like a broken clock but we need brands making competition if they can’t wake up by themselves. Obv it’s fine there isnt much shit available as standalone drum machine around so it’s easy for them to aim low and sell…
Every added feature requires workflow adjustments. Take a look at the workflow of the Akai Force vs the Rytm and you’ll see the Rytm has way less overhead. Some people prefer the directness of the Rytm, even if it means dealing with more limitations. It’s a trade-off. I basically know how to use the whole thing from muscle memory, as there are only a couple of pages.
In general it just sounds like you don’t gel with the Rytm at all. Not everything is for everyone. Maybe look into Maschine+ or Force, both of which have tons of FX, synths (including drum synths) and sampling options and big colour screens.
There’s plenty of drum machines around. Most don’t have any screen at all. I think the MkII’s have just the right amount of screen. Some people don’t like screens at all. Look at the iridium and the complaints at the poor responsiveness of the screen.
There isn’t anything else even close to the capability and quality that the AR has. 8 voices of pure analog, multiple engines per voice, sampling per voice, an incredible sequencer, metal casing, solid encoders, and velocity AND aftertouch sensitive pads. To round everything else off, you get overbridge, which in my experience, has been flawless.
There’s obviously always room for improvement, but holy sweet hell, this is a production machine for the ages! I get new ideas every time on turn the thing on.
Lol
The screen is from 2003 on the AR and the iridium screen is shit so they should make a better screen.
It’s a device with a screen why not make it better ?
Sorry i don’t get the logic.
You are just stating specs the thing is the pads arent really great. So many devices do pads right and elektron doesnt yet.
The analog engine isnt that great imo and they have plenty of devices to get inspiration from too.
Like i’m saying it’s probably the best versatile drum machine around which says a lot about the state of the market…
I was snarky. My bad. I get your perspective and yeah it could be better. It just sounded like you were bagging on a great drum machine and wanted it to be something it’s not versus making realistic feature request.
Elektron definitely nailed it in this regard. Although there are little differences between some machines (function button position, saving/reloading shortcuts for example) and endless rotary encoders are always a tradeoff - it’s possible to play their machines by muscle memory and they offer quite a bit in terms of features and performance and they don’t sound too shabby either.
Lol, when I switched on my AK after two weeks of playing with OT and AR only, I thought smt was wrong with the screen. Never noticed before, it is small indeed. Got used to it again in a few minutes so…
When I went from a Mk1 to a Mk2 I kept hitting
‘track’ instead of ‘function’ as they swapped their position. Everything else was smooth sailing immediately. Made me realise how quick I had gotten at getting around on the device.
I’m stating the specs because it’s worth noting in relation to your complaints and statments about the synth. Your essentially asking for another device, not a new feature for the current one.
I’d also add, another benefit to the elektron devices is that they get significant updates even many years after their release. I’m guessing that a big update is forthcoming for the AR very soon as well.
Cheers.
Yeah the amazing update the DT got last summer really made the machine significantly better, so I have some faith in elektron to come through.
The AR to me has a very special combination of sound, workflow and functions which is really inspiring. Adding functions generally has a negative effect on workflow, and I wouldn’t want it to be an mpc live-like do everything daw-in-a-box. For me, some slight updates and smart add ons would make this machine even better, but I dont hate its current limitations.
Personally, what it comes down to for me, is i like elektron workflow, so i wish elektron made pretty much every instrument - that way i could get that flow with all the other features i want that elektrons don’t have. Instead they only make their own devices, not MPCs or Squarps or anything else, so i have to settle. In return i get very playable instruments like the Rytm. Its all good. I’d love an MK3 Rytm of course. They really left a lot of room for improvement, which im sure will lend itself to many future product iterations, subtly adding features from other products that everyone thinks should be a given-- the way apple does it basically. But never feature bloat – that’s the Elektron Way. I agree though, I want new Elektrons, and I want them now, always.
