Yeah, I agree, I appreciate that he’s bringing good advice to people who can’t or won’t shell out for stuff. But it’s not a CBS GenLoss just because your plug does wow and flutter like it was 1983.
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Oh wow, checked my mailbox, EU 602 shipped as well 
! As I have texted above, I bought one on Ebay just a couple of days ago for the original price. As they will arrive so close to each other, I will definitely check out whether I will keep the high or low pass version. If anyone in Germany is interested in buying the pedal from me, send me a PM.
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EU #1004 also shipped
I’m closeby, in Amsterdam. Let me know your findings on the differences between both and which you prefer. I might be open for buying one of yours!
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As this is my first guitar pedal with in/out to the side, I will get me some angled cables. Is there anything special about CBA pedals or angled cables that I should be aware of? I think I will go straight into my interface, but might use in- and outputs of OT as well from time to time.
What about powering them: will a standard 9V adapter that works with e.g. Strymon Deco or Specular Tempus work?
Gen Loss mk2 has a stereo trs input and ouput jacks. I bought 1/4" TRS to TS left + TS right splitter cables and replaced the straight TRS plugs with Amphenol right angle plugs. I couldn’t find right angle TRS splitter cables although maybe they’re out there somewhere. Your standard 9V center negative dc adapter shoud work.
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I still think CB should cover all costs to alter anyone who sends a 1st batch pedal back for modifications. CB’s new business practice of selling only direct to consumer is cutting out the middle man (i.e. your local music shop), but they are still selling it at Uncle Bob’s Music Shop’s MSRP … unless this was supposed to be a $600 pedal. They have money built into this pedal to cover expenses, so I don’t understand why they don’t go the full mile.
I think the main reason they are not covering the shipping cost and providing under the hood instructions on youtube, is to discourage people from sending it back and save on non-billable tech hours.
As far as the direct-to-consumer approach, it is not good for your local music shop’s future, as other companies will follow this trend once they see how successful it is. I’m thankful that they are acknowledging and correcting, but I’m not going to sing at the alter about how fortunate I am about the situation.
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I agree but at the same time, merchants who don’t produce or create anything are able to take a cut of some company’s hard work in a day and age were anyone can setup a website to sell a product. What do we need middle men for anymore? I think more small producers need to sell direct as they already have to pay taxes and many other costs just to sell their items - so why cut into their profits just to give the merchant a margin?
I think CB should charge $100.00 for their pedals, give $800 to every local music shop for each one sold, and give me a puppy every time any YouTuber complains about one of their products.
It may sound outlandish, but really the only thing stopping them is not wanting to go out of business. Which is the exact same thing standing in the way of your wishlist, so why not swing big?
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If it’s successful going direct to consumers then of course others would follow. Anything else, based on just this idea would be charity, no? But it’s not really this, is it?
The reality is that there should be a relationship where selling to a vendor that opens the door to customers they never would have had before.
Now in terms of CBA, they made more than a few long explanations and their reasoning was (paraphrasing) that to continue selling to shops would require increasing prices, and it would also require growing the company to meet the demand.
Instead they decided to keep the company small and keep the same price model. It’s up to them to define their level of success.
And no shop is going out of business because of CBA.
Guitar Center put the little shops out of business. Musicians Friend, Sweetwater and I know I’m missing others but they followed the Blockbuster model of pushing out the true local businesses. Again it won’t be because of CBA.
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While said merchants may not create the products they sell, they do provide and maintain the venues wherein people can see, hear, touch, and compare products before they purchase them. Which boosts consumer confidence by lending a real-world presence to faceless companies, as well as providing real-time, in-person tech support, and giving the customer someone to hold accountable should a product be in disrepair or not otherwise work as advertised. Which then holds all other agencies accountable, from producer to manufacture to distributer, and on down the line.
Never mind that brick-and-mortar stores ultimately reduce the massive carbon footprint of buying and returning mail-order products from remote locations. Which happens mostly because people can’t see, hear, touch, and compare products before they purchase them.
Third verse – same as the first. 
Cheers!
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Honestly I think most small music shops in the states are kept afloat from renting instruments to highschool students at this point… and then price gouge as hard as physically possible on the side. Then there are some synth shops in major cities trying to do good honest business. But yeah try to buy a generic cable at a mom and pop and they will make a guitar center monster gold plated xtreme cable seem like a good deal.
It’s sad but true. Almost all the decent shops I remember from long ago are gone. It’s like you say for most. Either they have their rental service or there’s rental service plus lessons on site with high prices.
There’s some still though, like Russo Music. They can’t always compete on pricing but sometimes they’ll surprise you. They’re independent.
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I’ve been buying music equipment for over 30 years and all I remember was price gouging from the Mom and Pop stores. I say good riddance to that model of business. the same for music store ‘techs’ - most of them have been jokes. The most reputable techs i’ve ever hired were one man shops operating out of their homes - and the best music equipment buying experiences have come from second hand person to person or over the internet. I still will hold fast that a lot of these retailers are unnecessary. Ultimately the marketplace will decide.
Plus, who really needs to ‘touchee feelee’ equipment when there’s so much information from consumers on the internet about products? Don’t like it? Return it.
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Like every item that is bought on internet, one can return it if they don’t like it, simple as this.
Maybe we could stop talking with great science about how one should run their business and talk about sound?
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Quick follow up to my previous posts: I sold my original mk2 on reverb in two days and already have a new version on the way. Looking forward to try out the new bass response on my full mixes! 
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Yo! I’m mostly a lurker here but was shocked to see my job mentioned here. Thanks for the kind words 
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So now I actually got two Gen Losses the same day. Feels like a belated christmas present. Was expecting it around March.
Only had the chance to mess with the new version for half an hour. First impression is that it sounds really good. I especially like the saturation and the distortion it can create. Have a feeling I will be using this on everything a bit when recording stuff, including drums. That makes the newer mod seem more ideal. Also quite pleased about the dry options, although a seamless mix knob would be even better (edit: you get that by setting dry to unison, nice).
It‘s not ideal to have the models on a knob that doesn’t give you haptical or optical response where the models are. That’s done better on the Microcosm. In- and outputs to the side are also not ideal, but it makes it possible to stand the pedal up, which I might try.