Expressive E Osmose

Actually i am now even more stoked ! The editor is a bit intimidating - but these sounds !!

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Does the EagenMatrix have any features that set it apart from the other physical modelling based hardware (Anyma) or software (Plasmonic/Respiro/Chromaphone/Imagine/Noisy)?

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Incoming additive/resynthesis for exemple ? :innocent:

Matrix is not strictly a “physical modelling” synth btw…It has a classic substractive synthesis path and a whole bunch of resonant model to use…or not.

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My own intuition for now is that MPE interaction is strongly (and smartly) bound to the synthesis parameter so that it makes playing on another keyboard a bit lifeless / expressionless.

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That’s right !

Here anyone can hear what a simple digital sine wave can produce when its amplitude is controlled by pressure instead of classic adsr.

Pure digital sinewave with a bit of reverb ( despite what he says ! ) :

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He removes it at 45:45 ^^

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Fair enough but the Anyma is quite similar and has bread and butter VA and some additive as well in addition to the resonant models.

Both seem to lean into the physical modelling though in most of the demos I’ve seen probably because that differentiates them the most from more standard subtractive synths.

Note quite sure if there’s some more unique stuff that is exclusive to the Eagenmatrix.

This does definitely happen when a synthesizer is combined with a fairly expressive input mechanism.

Some of the Hydrasynth presets would probably sound fairly lifeless on something without PolyAT or wouldn’t necessarily retain certain aspects when that is simply remapped to another controller.

Some of the Scenes on my Roland Aerophone Pro definitely don’t sound quite the same if I hook up a different wind controller to it as they are taking advantage of how the Aerophone can send multiple CCs with different curves for breath for instance.

First emails have been sent to backers, Osmose is finally happening !

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I’m hoping some videos emerge soon before I need to pay my balance. Just to help make my mind up a bit further. Date wise I ordered about a week after some of the folk getting emails did so presuming I’m in the second batch.

I suspect the first batches will be pretty small…

I know a LOT of Osmose were ordered in the first few hours, enough to break expressivee ordering system… so I suspect we must be talking in the 100s.

so even though I ordered mine on the evening on day of announcement…

I doubt mine will be in the first few batches.
though hopefully, each batch will get a little larger… as they did talk about getting thru all pre-orders in Q1… so Im guessing/hoping Feb?

but I guess things will become a bit clearer, as they start shipping properly.

I also seem to remember, that ExpressiveE said once first few were shipping, they would hope to be able to give people some of kind of ‘expected delivery date’
hopefully the next newsletter will give us in this in some form?

@J0n35y , I think if you pre-ordered and waited this long, just take delivery !
I tried it at superbooth, and it was fantastic.
but also, I think given the discount we got, I think you’d be able to re-sell it, if you found it wasn’t for you…
(and I don’t think you’ll really get much from video reviews etc, though Im sure there will be some)

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Just saw a new post from the hommie canblaster with some osmose action.

Didn’t see this ?

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I’ve been on the fence for a long time to be honest. It’s been a 3 year journey after all and in that space I’ve probably gone full circle at least twice in terms of my own music making journey to the point that I’m not sure it’s going to add what I had originally hoped for.

What I will say though is this vibe is a personal one. I’m not taking a dump on an Osmose here - having used/owned both a Roli and Expressive E’s touché over the years I def see the benefits in a 49 key MPE controller. And when the sound engine is off doing synthier stuff (vs physical type sounds) I’m grinning at how it sounds. But… would I use it any more than the AK that’s been sitting on top of the piano gathering dust for probably 6 months now?

Like @thetechnobear says though, I’ve waited so long so why not take the delivery and give it a go. I’ve no idea what the real world price for an Osmose will be - find it hard to believe it will retail at the price Expressive have indicated but it feels a safe enough bet that I’d at least be able to sell it for no loss. I can afford to take a chance on it I suppose.

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I asked and it sounds like in January it’ll open up to people who weren’t part of the original preorder like myself. Then those wouldn’t ship till some time in Q2.

I’m considering taking the plunge but I’d really want to hear what some of the non synthinfluencers in the first round of preorders think as these MPE controllers are pretty difficult to get right.

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which one are you referring to here?

At least they make it look easy :slight_smile: i totally bought it without any piano skills - it said respecting your playing skills — no skills no respect i will make it sound two finger techno atmosphere hold vibing :slight_smile: Maybe wasted on me - or i learn keys.

I’ll be interested to know how much they managed to make available on the display for the Osmose.

Probably the one thing that is going to result in the most hemming and hawing from from me for the decision to take the plunge is definitely that it seems to require using an external editor.

I’ve already got one device with a powerful sound engine and complex external editor (Roland Aerophone Pro) and the having to use something else external to get things configured definitely dampens how often I’m interested in diving into sound design.

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I got my E-mail today and think about not buying it (no other reason than time). Not sure whether it is possible to pass the ticket on or how it works but if someone is interested, let me know. Olaf

You are right, I can cancel but not transfer. Thought one could make someone happy. I have a Contniuum as well (amazing) but also no space or time :slight_smile: