Does anyone have some struggles like me, or maybe you’ve experienced some same stuff?
I falling in love with cassette loooping music, but limitations of portas for my workflow is too much, so I’m trying to find out some solutions that may or may not exist
So, I’ve dreaming about machine that can do granular and regular sampling, with tactile feedback, which is important at least for me.
The easiest way might be an ipad, but without any tactile.
Second thoughts was about PT, but it’s hard locked to pattern size, so loops won’t go free sync (am I wrong?)
Third one - sp404 mk2, it has all except granular.
The question is - maybe some one knows all in one solution except mpc thing?
Or my only decision is go with iPad + 404 mk2?
For more info if someone would like to answer, my workflow is something like this (done with iPad):
Drambo tape instruments with free sync loops that are unquantized and starts with toggle button; two tracks set to tempo and sync is drums and bass ( to match rhytmical picture) and vocal track, for vocal.
Ps: maybe just point me in iPad with controller and I will forget about all the gas thing with a bunch hardware and even modular (started to think in that direction, but I’m really unsure and I really don’t want to step there, I think it’s just to complicated)
Thank you for your time on me!
Have you looked into the Lemondrop from 1010 at all?
Four voice polyphony, two granulators and an oscillator provide a wide sonic palette—from lush environmental pads to rugged and glitched-out textures. Instantly morph and shape sounds with the swipe of a finger using touchscreen X/Y control. Mix and match 6 onboard effects in two slots for up to 12 possible combinations—choose from flanger, distortion, chorus, phaser (FX1), and delay and reverb (FX2)
I don’t have one so couldn’t tell you how well it fits that mission brief but could be an interesting option!
Watched vids about it, looking nice, small which is good for limited space setup. Maybe I should try to attach 1 or 2 of them in my setup. I’ll think about Ld, thanks!
Yeah, I’m kinda understand that, but I can’t get what is working good in drambo for my purposes. It can be nanokontrol, or launchpad, or even APk 40 mk2. Besides I’m trying to get smallest setup I can
It’s good, but I’ve found patch for drambo which is better in my opinion.
The big problem I see for me right now is live performance. I like to play with loops.
I’m trying to fit in my head (for now at least) an iPad (or maybe 404 mk2) with 2 lemon drops as 4 individual virtual granular tape decks. Thinking of audio interface for iPad, snail enough for my vision (smaller then my evo 4), but with more in (ah, usb audio for bluebox will be magic), or mk2 404 with 2 lemon drops in 1 by 1 chain connection.
Head hurts
Sorry for double posting.
Yeah, this kind of music, but drop above drums and vocals. Drums can be achieved by octa for sure. But live vocals is another headache.
But without them - this is good setup for studio work and live perfomance in a quite small setup:
Octa ab in first lemon drop; cd in 2nd lemon drop
But does it doing it in all costs. Is engine as deep as in LD? And what about performing live?
Oh, how about chaining 1010 products through each other? Like electrons do: dot in dtone etc
I mean lemon drop in lemon drop in blackbox.
And do blackbox have the opportunity to play through unsequenced audio in?
Sorry for dumb questions
LemonDrop is obviously more feature complete than the blackbox, which is not a specialised granular synth. Blackbox’s granular mode only works on recordings, not on incoming audio signals.
I have no experience with live performance, but if you’re already thinking iPad plus controller, that’s going to be much cheaper and more flexible than adding more separate boxes. On the granular side, I’ve just started to play with Fluss, and am impressed so far. I know Hainbach has used it on tour. Loopy Pro is in my future, too, as soon as I get enough time to devote to it.
if you are into tape loops I’d recommend picking up a cheap reel to reel. Super tactile, you can slow down the reels by hand, use a mic stand to wrap the tape around for long loops. I usually put some electrical tape over the erase head and do some primitive overdubbing. Record this material to a sampler ( I use a Sp404-MK2) and get crazy.
squid salmple is pretty great for some stuff like that… it has an overdub record mode for sound on sound while it live loops, you can have other channels reference the channel you are recording into and have that have fully different settings, repitching, envelopes, filter, loop points. You can also be sequencing and modulating the different channels. I imagine the octatrack can do a lot of this also but it is quite easy on the squid… feels very seamless.
I think you can also set up rotating channels that you are overdubbing into, but I haven’t really ever jumped into that.
threw together a little sound on sound loop recording from the ol SC-88, all the overdubs is on a single channel of the squid with a second channel referencing it and being triggered occasionally
