It’s just that good. It’s the same sound I dial in on the Heat. If we see this on the DT… I may cry with joy.
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Yea, I was going to add a Heat to my DN but really don’t feel the need to.
It’s good!
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Can I resurrect this quickly?
Switched over from ambient to techno on the DN for some experimenting. Totally new to techno so I’d been looking at a Heat to oomph up the sound a bit (and a bit of sound design), then found this thread. Any other thoughts on if you’d bother with an AH, or make do with the DN’s internal overdrive…?
Any other DN techno tips also very welcome!
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Depends on what you’re looking for. The DN’s master distortion is just one flavour dialled in as much as you want it to effect whatever is going through it. AH is going to be much more flexible ofc
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Owning both DN and AH. What I can say is that all Techno Producers I know want an AH in their Rig. The High Gain Circuit is just amazing for that duty.
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I’d prefer with AH, but I sold it to fund the DN!
I found that DN’s master overdrive can make low registry muddy.
Probably better to adjust your sounds accordingly.
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Get in the habit of dialing in Filter keytracking and Highpass filters. if you’re fine with sacrificing the effects you can use em to make a decent rumble. but then the rest might sound a bit dry.
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Thanks a lot for the thoughts. I’m a proper novice with techno, so I’m trying to figure a lot out. In other (non-heavy-beat oriented) genres I mostly used saturation / overdrive to add a glow and bind sounds together. But what do I actually need to consider when adding it to heavy-hitting low-end stuff… how to add grit and warmth without mud?
It’s mostly in controlling your amp envelope. Long kicks are sick for a big drop section but can fatigue your ears if they’re just constantly going. getting the right envelope and eq is kinda most of the battle when dealing with hardware vs the open ended nature of like daw work.
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As @astricii mentioned DN hi pass help ! AH as also hi pass, +EQ.
AH dirty example with MD only. You can get similar results with DN, even better imho.
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Is that lead in the MD too?
Yes, a looped saw, lfo as envelop filter, slide. Was fun. 
lol nice. alright gotta let youtube bake my example. 
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Nice -That lead is great!
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Unless I’m missing something, the DN master overdrive doesn’t seem to have any filtering or EQ
No, how you filter your sounds going into the overdrive will determine how the saturation is applied is what we’re getting at.
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In an ideal world, you get an eq on every channel so you can scoop out that 500hz mud area. But if you are just working on the digitone solo, the filters are your friend. You cant scoop, but you can hi cut low cut etc. So work with that.
Personally I like the master overdrive full tilt, then I drop all my track amp vols to around 60, and mix into the overdrive from there. I low cut anything that isnt bass.
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This gradually adds more mud into things. First by lengthening the kick trigs then by using too much overdrive. You have to kinda find the sweet spot for the track. Between high pass filter resonance which can add back low end on punchier kicks. I used to just use sines with little transients when I first got the dn. I found the high pass filter can add all the lowend I want.
You still have to have something in the sub range for it to bite on to but once you find the sweet spot the kick basically dials itself.
I’m also using the delay here for a rumble kick and leaving the reverb for everything else.
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Does anyone else get a noticeable volume drop when engaging the master overdrive?
Is it me or is that countdown? (UK tv quiz show)
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