MC 707 / 101 : New Roland Grooveboxes

Thanks for confirming. I’ll look into reporting it as a bug, because I can’t imagine many scenarios where you’d want it to happen.

This one I might be able to help with. Shift + Sound, then arrow over to the Velocity tab. The TR-REC value on C4 sets the default step sequencer velocity.

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Beautiful

My Volts has a Ripcord for the 707. It came in handy last night when I lost power. I can power an Octatrack and a 707 from the same battery pack. Good stuff…

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Guys, what do you think about the sound quality of the MC 707? Since it has the ZEN-CORE flagship sound engine, it should be pretty good.
and actually i like a lot of sounds. I also bought the MC707 as a sound module to cover everything from poly to mono sounds with one device. but every time i made a beat and replaced one of the sounds with my AS-1 or typhon it just sounds sooo much better. there is this wow effect while the sounds of the mc 707 just sound ok or good.
do you feel that way too? I would actually like to sell my mono’s and buy an octatrack instead, but I just lack the wow effect with the mc 707

it does not have the wow effect.
it’s a do-it-all machine, so the sounds are intended to sit well in the mix.
that’s why i combine 707 with some analog synth which has character and stands out in the mix. btw, 707 is very convenient for this since 1.30.

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I am surprised by the number of modern products that omit this basic feature.

not really (speaking for the mc101). I think it sounds pretty great. Maybe not as thick as analogue monos (which groovebox does?) but many of the sounds just fit. I couldn’t dive into the synth engine since the 101 doesn’t really allow you to do so, but even just the presets and macro controls can get me far. While there are many cheesy 80s sounds, I found especially many of the basses sound round and punchy and sit perfectly in the mix from the get go. This is also true for quite a few pads and leads.
I’m positively surprised what I get out of this box, it just seems most of the time everything fits well together and sits where it belongs. But I’m a big fan of roland vibes and I think the MCs can give you that kind of vibe.

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7th episode of season 1 :grimacing:

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Edit - solved (see next post).

I am having a hard time with some of the design decisions here. Currently, it’s effect sends for drum tracks. If I add a filter or distortion to a tone or looper track, the effect is applied before the master FX sends. So a distorted lead synth has a distorted delay, which is what I’d expect.

But with drum tracks, it seems the FX send is sent before the track effects. This is best demonstrated with a low-pass superfilter. Set that to a low cutoff, so you have a muffled crash, for example, and send the pad to the master delay. The delay will use the pre-filtered sound of the crash. This is obviously not what you want, and generally sounds terrible.

Is there some setting I’m missing here? I can see the pad delay send and the kit delay send, but neither of those help. I’ve been looking for some kind of pre/post MFX switch, but I can’t find anything like that on the device or in the manual.

The reverb is the same - post-FX on tone and looped tracks pre-FX on drums. But! If I set the master MFX to a delay, the track FX ARE included!

What gives? A bug, or some design feature I’m not getting? Is it because drum pads have individual sends, and these are being tapped before the track FX? I don’t get it.

Solved! The MFX editing screen gives you two pages of parameters, but master FX send isn’t on there - you have to hit Enter, which brings up a long list of additional parameters, and you can set a delay / reverb send from the master FX there. If this has already been solved above, apologies - I did try various places before asking, but it’s not always easy to know what to search for.

Anyway, for anyone else who wants to know, you need to set the pad delay / reverb send to 0, and the MFX delay / reverb send to whatever you need. This way the wet MFX signal will be sent to the master FX, and not the dry signal.

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But now I’ve got another one: the S&H LFO. I wanted to use this for the classic effect of having a different filter cutoff on every note. So in the usual way I set the LFO to a slow speed, applied it to cutoff, and set the LFO’s Key Trigger to On.

But what happens here is that the LFO doesn’t seem to be re-seeded, so you get the same ‘random’ sequence every time, meaning at low speed every keypress sounds the same, and at higher speeds you get a repeating pattern.

Is this anyone else’s experience on 1.50? Am I cursed?

Edit: After a bit of searching, I have found some suggestions that the S&H LFO does indeed use a slowed-down static wave file as its source, which by my reckoning would be a strong contender for the shittiest synth feature of the decade. If it’s true, and stretches across the entire Zen Core range, I’m kind of flabbergasted.

Unfortunately you are correct. It’s not random at all.

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:headphones:

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This device really loves to give with one hand and take back with the other! But it’s hard to stay mad at it.

just curious - how are you putting these together? Midi controller or all on the 101 UI?

Great sounds.

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Are they the 101’s internal sounds?

Do the 707 and 101 have the same sound sets?

thanks. All 101 ui :+1:
I really like the ui actually

yes :+1:

I think so. Don’t own a 707, but I‘m pretty sure I read it somewhere

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yes, all presets and internal waveforms are the same.

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