I had the same question and looked it up in the manual, but it doesn’t clear it up… then I looked at a picture of the MC 101 which has 4 “C” knobs… so I guess that’s where the fourth knob comes from and we just don’t have it on the 707…
Edit: indeed you can step edit the C4 value on the 707
mysterious 4th knob should be recordable in realtime from external controller, CC number 83
another highlight from version 1.6: scatter for individual tracks…
look at https://youtu.be/XtDVw_7uXvY?t=524
The very helpful Unit:E explains how this can be done…
That is a very nice enhancement.
Out of curiosity, have you tried to sequence it from the iPad yet?
Weird to say but I m glad to say that I was wrong thinking Roland wouldnt hear users’s requests and wouldnt keep devices up to date based on recent history.
Scatter per track really opens up the clips variations you can do.
Clips were already very well thought out to make the most out of tracks.
The random tone generator is actually funner than expected, I like how they did Pad / Analog Pad / Poly / Mono / etc. engines to meet various sound/tone selection needs.
MC101 is really much more potent than your regular 4 track groovebox/rompler and it looks like it will continue being a useful compact sound module for years to come…
What id love to see is the tracks having a shift press to access 4 separate midi tracks. Like the digitone.
That would be great though I like it as is and is more a wish than a necessity
True.
I often use the bounce tracks workaround to free up a midi track.
Although, having a few more capable midi sequencers in-house, it sure is a luxury to use it as a midi sequencer…
Only basic tests in AUM with Rozeta and cykle, and in BM3 & Zenbeats. So far, so good.
Do you guys use the “sampler” (sample playback) capability much on your MC101s?
All the time… I thought it would be a very “marginal” sampler at first. But in practice, it’s very good even with lo-fi samples. The sound engine, filters and FXs were way better than expected.
That’s what I thought I was hearing on YouTube, so thanks for confirming.
Lot of people doing different styles with this box.
Totally agree. I’m a groove box fan since the 90’s and the latest MCs are probably the best I’ve played so far. There is so much you can do, even only with the 101.
I’m trying to use my new MC-101 as a sound module (slave) controlled via Midi program change messages from the Deluge (the brain of my setup). Unfortunately this doesn’t work as intended because the MC-101 apparently needs some prep time before switching patterns. All program changes received from the Deluge will only be applied one pattern length later on the MC-101 – both for Scene as well as Clip changes.
Does anyone experience the same problem? Did you find a workaround?
I’m really hoping to find a solution, otherwise I’ll have to return the MC-101 as it’s simply not usable in my specific setup/workflow (at least with its current firmware 1.60).
You may send program change from Deluge to change MC101 clip for a new one a few milliseconds before the end of current clip.
I have to try it, as I also control MC101 with Deluge, without midi program change actually, but plan this very soon.
This trick usually does the job with other gear (ie: Monologue program changed by Digitakt).
Yeah, you are right. I have to manually trigger the program change about 100ms early on the Deluge, for it to get applied on the MC-101 on time for the pattern change. Unfortunately this does not really work in an improvisational context, where decisions are often made on the spur of the moment.
It would be great to have a setting on the Deluge to allow for automatic early program change with individual offset time per Midi channel. I posted a feature request with more details in the synthstrom forum, so if anyone is interested to see this implemented on the Deluge, please check it out and upvote it.
How do the MC101 synths compare to the Deluge’s? As much as I can appreciate the somewhat dusty and fragile nature of the Deluge synths, especially with the Boards of Deluge patches, there’s a lack of movement within them that sometimes make me feel they’re not quite filling up the space. Then again, I have this feeling on most synths and always return back to my Prophet 12 to calm me down.
But if one put that last part aside, and just looked at this as a portable sequencing box with a cool synth engine in it, how does it compare to the Deluge’s synth?
Curious about the random tone generator on the 101. Is it just picking a preset and adjusting the parameters normally available on the 101, or is the full engine from the 707 somehow being randomized in the background?
not tried it yet, but from what I‘ve seen, this plus fx
If that’s the case, it goes a long way to getting free from the confines of the presets on the 101. I’m really hoping they do a medium sized unit that has the option of running on batteries, with 6 tracks and full access to the sound engine.
I can not yet make hardware’s sound quality a/b testing, but I would say some MC101 can fill audio spectrum very well. Probably nothing compares to a Prophet 12, but for sure it can add some consistency to Deluge sounds.
IMHO it fits really well with BoD sound packs, currently working on a track that uses both BoD & Deluge sounds, hope to find time to finish and share this ( I can record a short exemple of Deluge/MC only, if you want).
MC101, as a very portable solution, is great, and as a sound box too. Its sequencer can work by itself, but compared to Deluge one, well… in my opinion no hardware sequencer can compare Deluge for song mode 