yeah and single cycle waveforms on the OT can get some really good synth results too… no need for a 707.
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The loopop vid for 707 makes it seem better than initial impressions.
Lots of fx , time stretched loops , editable scatter , interesting synth engine etc…
16 clips and 8 scenes per project seems a bit low but overall it seems like a fairly good device.
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Totally agree, that’s like only one bank on the OT. I do like that you can interchange the patterns on the MC 707.
That makes it seem almost impossible to play a full 1h+ liveset just on the 707
I was thinking the same thing. Not necessarily 1:1 but very similar …
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I usually go through 8 patterns per song. In the MC 707 I’ll only get two songs out of a project!!! If I was really stretching it maybe I could get four songs. That’s only 20-28 minutes of music, probably less since it would only be four patterns per song.
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Yer this is a dealbreaker. Was thinking of selling some gear and reducing my footprint but it is missing some important aspects which limit the 707 from doing that. This is one of them.
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Yep, not enough patterns per project to make it a viable live performance option. In a pinch, I can do an entire live show with just the DT or just the DN without stopping for a project load. Taken together, the DT/DN combo is beastly as a live duo.
Plus, I don’t need time-stretched loops. They make me lazy. 
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Roland dude: So like what kinda size shall we make it?
Other Roland dude: Er… like, a big laptop?
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yeah its in there… along with a few different random modes it seems. People will make some neat nuanced stuff with these with out a doubt but I still wonder about that sound engine a bit. I mean I’m sure you can make great sounding music with it but its not the sort of engine that is exciting to use or immediately inspiring.
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I guess if you where doing a minimal set ala Richie Hawtin you could stretch it out? Three tracks for drums, three tracks for synth/bass and a sample track. Maybe the MC 707 can change projects on the fly? That would be a game changer!
Keep in mind each drum track holds 16 drums. So 3 tracks would be 48 drums.
Seamless project change is always a sought after feature though.
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I could work with that. The problem is the variation in the bass/synth. Drums parts I can perform live change ups and keep things moving. One track I could leave open to play cords live that would leave me with 48 bass lines per project. Just spitballing here.
That makes it seem more doable with some clever planning, at least for the 707. The 4 tracks of the 101 seem like they would get kind of cramped for sustaining a live set.
I’ll admit that it is certainly an interesting and powerful feature that a single track on the 101/707 can handle an entire multi-voice drum kit or other multi-voice parts.
No song mode, heavy menu diving, small screen, no arp! No comparison to my Akai Force.
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Definitely! The Akai Force would stomp all over this. The MPC Live is also a better option.
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And the Deluge, I’d say.
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As fun as that 707 looks, a 101 would be perfect if you have a 8S…
OT has 8 EXTRA midi Tracks, tons more modulation, far deeper sampling and sample editing options to begin with…
707 has a quite flexibel synth engine.
Besides basic functions like sampling and sequencing, very different imo
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Thought for the day .
Both items can exist , … it’ll be ok, neither one is in competition or fighting in any way .
Choose whichever is most suitable . Buy , use.
If neither are suitable , make your own or keep on searching.
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