Novation Circuit Rhythm and Circuit Tracks

I only have the OG which doesn’t have an undo (as far as I remember). That would be a new feature on the Tracks or Rhythm if there is one.
A workaround on the OG if you want to play live over something is to first make a copy of the Session you are working on. Then use the copy to play live over and if you’re not happy with the results you can go back to the original Session. (I’m assuming the Tracks or Rhythm still use Sessions!)

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Welp. This is an unfortunate update. I ran into something that has me on the fence about keeping it. The MIDI is kind of trash.

I was hoping that I would be able to change the sample slot or start points per step from the Digitakt. I couldn’t. Any change you make on a given step doesn’t go into effect until the next step. But fair enough, I couldn’t do that with a Model: Samples or even a second Digitakt. And there’s a pretty good slice mode anyway. What got me is that everything seems to work like that. So even the filter settings are a step behind. That’s just not going to work.

All that said, I really like it on its own. But…yeah, I’m glad I held off on getting the deck saver.

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minus not actually being able to sample and not having onboard slicing or resampling, what was it about the model samples that you did’t like enough to sell it?

That’s it. I like the Model: Samples a lot. But I wanted something portable that could sample and resample. And basically the only thing I was using it for was to occasionally have an extra set of tracks that I could control precisely from the Digitakt. Turns out, the Rhythm can’t really do that, which is bothering me more than I would have thought had I known this when I bought it.

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Mine arrives tomorrow from Thomann. I had to cancel the order from Novation. It was literally 3km away from me in the airport, but It was already more expensive than Thomann, plus I had to pay customs, plus they changed the law and you have to register to get an import ID… fucking madness.

Anyway, I can hardly wait for it to get here. I’ve read the manual too and I see that you have individual track lengths. I too feel spoiled by Digitakt & my MPCs so let’s hope I won’t get too bummed about it.

Actually I got it to replace my OP-Z as a portable music device. So I’ll compare it to that not the Digitakt.

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I’m still annoyed about the MIDI, but it it feels like an over reaction. I like this thing a lot. Here are some beats

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Nice beats, some Kenny dope type vibes in there.

Will keep an eye on this thread as interested in these

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definitely wanna hear about that comparison when you’ve got comfortable with it

Well I can tell you right away :slight_smile:
The Z is nice because of that Elektron Style sequencer and its sampler is quite capable (poly notes anyone?, LFO), but I like the fastness of the Circuit, and the pattern structure better.

For example you don’t have to make separate patterns for Intro, Verse, Chorus, etc. You make SCENES for that, and just combine patterns. And remember each pattern can have a different instrument/instruments.

So it’s kind of like Ableton in this regard. Pretty powerful I’d say.
I’m willing to trade of Poly Chords vs all that.

It’s an interesting box this new Circuit. Let’s hope in future updates they fix the unquantized recording and make it more loose, and maybe make file loading/saving faster.

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Nice beats.

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It’s a guessing game. With Novation’s reputation in upgrading through firmware updates over time to provide new functionalities and quality of life changes - between the two devices, do you think Rhythm would inherit some abilities currently only found on the Tracks or more like the other way round. Possible?

Thanks for this. I know a tuning fork is a super simple solution but I totally forgot about it. Setting up my Digitakt to play an A@440 clean synth note to tune my modular is a simple yet tiresome process. Tuning folk ordered, all I have to do it whack it against the table. Marvellous.

I hooked up my Circuit Tracks to my Octatrack in an effort to learn them both a little better. I didn’t realize the Octa could capture loops perfectly with the REC+Track combo. Making loops on the fly and recording them into the Octa was a fun learning experience.

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My favourite thing about it.

And it’s the big thing missing from the Rhythm - and it would benefit from it so much

  • no trouble with soft attacks like you get with level-triggering

  • the even-spaced slicing would need no adjustment to be beat-perfect

I’m wondering if the record start/stop can be midi triggered? In which case quantized sampling would be possible with midi loopback (if loopback doesn’t cause other problems)

In fact, quantized sampling is such a good fit for this that I almost suspect Novation are saving it for an update

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Still want to get one :slight_smile:

@Doug sounds gooooood! What would you say about the Rhythm sound by itself? No Sampletrak / DT comp, just the Rhythm…

It might be weird but what annoys me the most is probably the lack of resonance for the hipass. I use it all the time on kicks, snares and bass sounds to fatten up dem lows… Hope that Novation can add that by making the 8th knob bipolar: go left and you add reso to the lopass, go right and you add reso to the hipass.

Oh, and for that unquantized feel: I would def use 32 steps instead of 16 and make them go double time. Double the resolution !

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As far as the sound goes, the compressor didn’t change the sound drastically. And I didn’t use the Sampletrak at all. So yeah, I think the sound is pretty good but I am fully on board for letting the high pass be resonant so I can punch things up. One of my favorite parts of that Digitakt was that base width filter so that I can use that on drums and still cut the highs without having to resample.

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The save time for a newly created sample is crazy. I’m assuming it’s the conversion to mono that adds to the time. It’s a workflow killer.

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From what I noticed, the Digitakt (which I know runs at 32 bit internally) transposes the sounds when in Chromatic mode way smoother.
For what it is, the Rhythm sounds good to me though.

One thing I noticed, if you p-lock a filter cutoff on a step, the next steps if they don’t have p-locks will retain the last cutoff value, which sucks.

I want to compare sampling thorugh 1 channel, vs. 2 channels, to see if save time is faster when sampling mono :wink:

also a “toggle normalize” option would be cool. Maybe I don’t want my sampled hihat to blast, thus reducing time.