Novation Circuit Rhythm and Circuit Tracks

@Strangelov3 now that really sucks… :frowning:

@alexbuga yeah, plocks in Novationland work differently. It really is like nodes in an automation lane: if you raise the value for a step, the lane after is raised with it till you put a new node down.

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Hey @Strangelov3

Saving is a background process and the sample is available immediately so it shouldn’t necessarily impact on workflow. Saving to SD is also quicker than to the internal memory.

While processing/saving or even while the sample is still recording in the background, that sample is immediately available to use in the sequencer/note mode etc. You can continue to sample into new slots too while previous samples are still saving.
With the exception of changing pack and committing start/end points hard-edits to samples, all functions on the Rhythm are still fully available (while samples are saving) so there should be no real impact on workflow.

I find it helps me to not look at (or get concerned by) the green “save to slot” flashing indicator too much while I’m sampling ;o)

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Hey @Calc, nice to see you here too!
Thanks for this clarification.
Saving a sample to disk is not a bummer, the sending samples from desktop is a bit slow, considering it’s a USB-C connection, but I’m assuming it’s sending some SysEx stuff and that’s why it takes a while.

I have some UX feedback regarding Components. Is there a place to send it?

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Thanks @alexbuga I’m always checking in even if I’m not sticking my head above the parapet ;o).

Agreed on the load times from Components it is a little long. We’re aware of it though and looking into what (if anything) can be done.

Regarding the Components feedback, feel free to DM me here or you can send your ideas through a direct message on Twitter, FB or Instagram. That’ll definitely get passed through to the team

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Great! i’ll send a few ideas after I finish work.

actually that sounds impressive regarding the saving…

but regarding the p.locks is it possible that you guys could change it so that each step’s p.lock is self contained so that you don’t have to return the next step manually to it’s default state?

Ha ha firmware bombs are one of the reasons I don’t poke above the parapet too much ;o).

I cant say anything about anything regarding future updates, Firmware etc. in a place like this.
One thing I will say though is the automation stuff is pretty baked in since the OG Firmware so (never say never but) that one may not appear. Sure its not quite the same system as an Elektron P-Lock but its still totally capable.
If I’m manually making a step automation change I’ll often highlight the next step and lock that to a ‘default’ returning value before I make the parameter change to the step I want to affect. This way it essentially works the same as the P-Lock method. I also use temporary record for step automation a great deal. Press and hold record for the desired duration and releasing when I dont want to record the automation, that works really well and delivers pretty much the same results.
Another thing that works well for manual step automation is using the velocity page. In the main sequencer page pressing a step can remove it from the sequence but using the velocity page pressing a step lets you audition. With the record button lit you can make your parameter locks easily there too.

So it might not be exactly the response you were looking for but hopefully its a little bit helpful anyway.

Also if you do have any firmware requests or ideas hit Novation up on the socials like FB, Insta and Twitter. That stuff always gets read and passed on.

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Sent :smiley:

Pasted here for posterity :))


Show empty sample slots with a dimmer light in Sample View

When adjusting the monitoring level show clipping indicator with the red LED

In Novation Components please allow multiple selection and deletion of samples.

Duplicate tracks. So I can load the same sample and settings on each track and perform a chord and then resample.

Save the default sample slot per pattern so I can have a different instrument per pattern.

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Yeah, this in particular would be great for me. One of the things I like being able to do is keep one shots on one pad and get to them in slice mode. I also like recording things pitched up to save space. It would be nice to set up a kit one time and then just paste it across a few other tracks.

But as for polyphony, one thing I’d like is something like a free mode where everything works like there’s just one polyphonic track. So I can either open a pad and play multiple notes for chords or play multiple slices at once for things like finger drumming. Or I can just have access to all of my samples and be able to play them on top of each other like a 404. Bonus points if I can access them all externally via MIDI with different note values.

Another way to do this might be to let us set how many voices a given track uses. So if I say track 4 uses 3 voices then it would just disable 7 and 8.

And if this isn’t something that can be recorded in the sequencer in a reasonable way, I think for me, I’d be okay with not being able to record in this mode. As long as I can resample and get a click track going I’d be pretty jazzed.

Yes! Ignore the blinking lights and jump back into the Sample Page.

Played with mine a bunch the last couple days. I hadn’t really grasped the pack / project hierarchy going in but it makes sense to me now. Being able to seamlessly jump to a new project is perfect. The scenes work flow very functional. Slicing is quite fast. Without a doubt, my favorite thing right now is the scale and length per track on the one page. Battery lasts a while.

The sound shaping tools are just ok imo, but I knew that already. Components pack load times are not ideal. The output seems to be on the quieter side.

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I opened mine up. The battery is super slim. And easy to replace.

The main cpu and memory are shielded so I couldn’t take a peek. It’s nicely built. Sorry. I forgot to take pics

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Might be silly but, how do I get more than one pack in components loaded? It only gives me the option to override the one pack I have

I like the Rhythm but some things get on my nerves:

  • there should be a key combination to cycle through chained patterns on a track, so I dont have to sub-menu-dive into the pattern-view everytime I want to access the second half of my 64-step loop. I think Shift+Arrow-Up/Down could do the trick or Pattern+Arrow-Up/Down.
  • and while we are at it: “View Lock as the default” should be an option in the setup-menu. Having the cursor follow the song everytime doesnt make a lot of sense to me coming from Elektronland :man_shrugging:
  • no possibility to wipe every note in a pattern by a button combination. I never nail live note inputs on the first take. I mean who does? There is no fast way to undo your last take without exiting Recording mode. Right now, I let the pattern run for another cycle and manually press all lit sequencer steps (whack-a-rat-style), then do another take, lol. I mean there has to be another way.
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How do you “lock it” to its default state?

I’ve been using a three movement gesture. Pressing and holding the step, holding CLEAR, and turning the knob counter clockwise.

Please tell me there’s an easier way to do that.

Thank you!

Never considered buying a Circuit until I saw Doug’s track in the Escape From New York thread and now I want a Rhythm.

I’ve watched a few videos from Loopop, BoBeats, Accurate etc since and really liking what I see as something I could make music with anywhere, but been wondering if one can sequence external gear? Seems to be some suggestion that it can like in MusicRadar’s review and also a lot of reviewers saying it can’t. Wouldn’t be the end of the world if it can’t, but would be a nice bonus if it could.

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Thanks. I haven’t tried sequencing something with it yet but on paper it doesn’t seem ideal. You can set a track to send its MIDI but it’s going to be mono. You can’t get around that by sending multiple tracks to the same MIDI track. And if you do send MIDI, you’re using one of your internal tracks. You also cant, as far as I can tell send cc messages. Or at least it sends on whatever number the track parameters use.

So it’s like a less flexible version of one of the Models as far as that goes.

I was planning on giving it a go with my little Modal Craft Synth since it’s a mono synth anyway. I figure it could be good for bass lines.

The Circuit Tracks does seem good for sequencing external gear. I’m hoping down the line they get some of each other’s features.

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I love mine so far, I also found a few nitpicky stuff and already sent it to Novation. Fingers Crossed.

But for what it is, slicing is a freaking breeze. The manual slicing mode is super fast even without a screen, and SHIFT + START/END works super fast.

And if you want to stop recording and sample a perfect loop, man I get it right from the first take every time, probably because it has very low latency.

You can set the SHIFT button to be sticky from the setup menu, so it’s easier to tune your sample without having to hold shift every time, but I find it annoying because I always forget it ON.

I find it easier and more fun to start a new pack from the hardware and browse samples on my phone and sample them in as I go. Ex: I need a bass… let’s sample a bass note…

This way is fun and I don’t get stressed about the sampling time.
Uploading via components is painfully slow, and I lose a lot of time deciding which samples to put where…

I made a small stereo > mono cable and I hook up one of those bluetooth receivers into Circuit. This way I can wirelessly sample from my phone/laptop.

Now I really wish Teenage Engineering implement threshold recording into the OPZ. It would be super nice to trigger sampling via threshold, record your sample into a temp memory and crop it into a perfect loop and THEN save it. You know… like Circuit does.

Kudos Novation! I look forward to see what’s in the next updates!

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Okay. So I gave it a go messing with an external synth. It’s kind of like the Models. You can play polyphonicly but your sequences are mono. I had the Skulpt replay a bass line that had been just a sampled note played out. My inclination was to just turn down that channel in the mixer but that was a problem. It sends a cc message to the Skulpt so it changed the release on the patch. The easiest option I think is to choose an empty sample slot.

Come to think of it, my guess is that you could probably play chords if you set a long release and used the microtiming. It would actually be more straightforward than on the Models since you do that within the step rather than nudging steps together.

I also tried doing the whole thing with scene chaining. It worked really well. Anyway, here is the beat.

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Anyone find the rhythm quiet? My volume’s very low… even with the Master Volume cranked to the max. Curious

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Yeah, it seems pretty quiet