Anything with a sequencer. Like a SH01A
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FWIW Ive been feeding mine samples from iPad apps and my Circuit Monostation.
If you are going to sequence chords for house music outside the SP-16 youll want some polyphony. Not sure if the SP-16 does poly sequencing or not.
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Hey all. I was just messing about in Bitwig and I figured something out that may be helpful for other SP-16 users. I downloaded a sample pack from Noiiz which is primarily techno-oriented percussion/hihat loops etc and I was wondering how to easily convert to 16-bit and save space on the SP-16 memory. It turns out thereās a fairly easy trick and it may work with other DAWs although I canāt confirm.
Basically, if I select multiple samples and drag them into an empty Bitwig project it loads them all into separate audio tracks. At this point, I have multiple tracks with one sample each in. I wanted to trim them down to one bar each as they are generally 2 or 4 bars but most just have a tiny fill or a little extra tweak at the end, which I can live without. I selected every audio clip and then simply dragged the right handle to reduce them all down to one bar. If I then right-click (with all still selected) and choose ābounce in placeā then it bounces them all down to new one-bar audio files in a dedicated folder for the project. The bonus here is that I can set my bounce settings in Bitwig to be 16-bit and audio rate to be 44.1 khz so the new files are all now compatible with the SP-16, whereas they were incompatible 24-bit previously.
What was previously a folder of 527MB files that wouldnāt load onto the SP-16 is now 172MB of convenient one-bar loops which load just fine. They also neatly slice into 4/8/16 pieces in the SP-16 for easy editing and turning into something new. Massive saving on space and the loops are easier to work with.
I know Bitwig is not to everyoneās taste but some of the little UX stuff theyāve implemented makes otherwise tedious jobs like this so easy. I was looking for a dedicated audio editor software for this task but it turns out I donāt need one!
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The sp16 can handle 24bit samples.
Unless your were just trying to conserve memory?
They may have meant 48khz
The SP canāt read those.
But maybe he is talking about the bit depth 
Entirely possible I got confused here but I had some stuff that wouldnāt load, it was probably 48khz that was incompatible then. Either way, yes I was trying to save space and make the loops uniform in length.
Just ignore my nonsensical rambling and carry on!
re: space on the SP-16, remember itāll also stream files from a USB stick just fine as well, you just have to get the SP-16 to format it and setup the file folder system.
Not a bad way to save space if youāre working with the internal storage only.
Little tip on that matter if you donāt want to sacrifice on the bitrate: you can attach a USB thumb drive to your SP16, thereby expanding your storage significantly. I have a 128GB Sandisk drive attached permanently, it works a charm.
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Iām probably being dense but I canāt work out for the life of me how to do this. Trying to use my dusty Maschineās encoders for mixer/send/whatever control on the SP16.
Can anyone enlighten an idiot please?
I apologize if Iām being too basic, but the first thing to do is find (probably in the SP-16 manual) the SP-16 MIDI CC implementation chart which tells which CC number is assigned to each parameter. Then youāll have to go to the CC editor on Maschineās software and tell Maschine what each control (knob, pad etc) what CC number itāll control. So if you want a particular knob to control the mixer volume on track 1 you look up on the SP-16 chart which CC number is assigned to mixer volume on track 1 and set the knob on Maschine to the same number.
Sorry, havenāt had Maschine since the early days of the original, but I remember it being quite easy to setup MIDI CC templates for it.
Thanks a lot. It turns out I just didnāt scroll far enough through the manual to find the CC chart 
But your response prompted me to look again 
Think Iāll be good from here. Thanks again!
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I donāt have much experience with remapping Machine controllers (other than the Maschine Mikro 2), but I have mapped my DJS-1000 and SP-16 to quite a few random, midi capable devices for one reason or another. First off @InTheAMās overview of the Maschine to SP-16 mapping process is accurate and exactly the workflow youāll follow. But I would add:
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Install NIās Maschine Controller Editor. It will make this process significantly more intuitive. (NI released this a few years ago, allowing one to remap almost any NI product). In the Editor, choose your device, ie. āMaschine Controllerā. You should see a full schematic of every re-mappable control. Looks like you have an enormous number of possibilities if iām reading the editor correctly, ie. upper left 16 encoders and 16 buttons (between page 1 and 2), 3 more encoder plus 8 or buttons making up the āMasterā section and then 14 more buttons between Transport and Pads, and finally 16 x 8 assignable pads.
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For individual track/pad parameters, along with assigning a CC you will also need to designate its MIDI channel on the sp-16 (Tracks/Pads 1-16 = Midi channel 0-15). So if you want to control all six FX1 parameters for Track 9 you would choose six encoders within the NI editor and change them to CC 46 - CC 51 each with Midi Ch 8. Depending on the type of parameter being set youāll want to tweak the Mode, Range, and Display that makes sense.
You have a ton of possibilities here and iād love to see what sort of mappings you come up with.
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Thanks man, really helpful. Iāve always found the controller editor a little confusing but now I have a proper reason to learn how it works.
Ideally Iād like a midi controller with 16 channel strips so have the fader for volume then a ton of encoders per channel for sends, filter cut offs, delay times etc. The Launchcontrol XL is halfway there. Just needs more of everything and in an ideal world better quality components.
The NI Controller Editor is about as good as it gets for custom Midi mapping of hardware via a software interface.
Thereās obviously a ton of controller options out there (good and bad) but if youāre looking for an abundance of sliders, knobs, encoders, and buttons, Midi ports (if you donāt want to deal with using a USB midi host for the sp16), and deep mappability (without a computer) you should look into Faderfox.*
I have an MX12 ( 24 pots, 12 sliders, 24 buttons w/LEDs, etc) and a PC12 (72 pots, 12 buttons) which may sound overly excessive (but what gear isnāt?), but for the sp16 using either/both of these controllers turns a decent āone set of track parameters at a timeā machine into something that is only limited by how well you can design/map whichever parameters for whichever tracks all on one surface.
I have poor follow through when it comes to making videos, but Iāve been meaning to finish a simple demonstration video of how I use both FF devices with djs-1000/sp16.
The Faderfox controllers look really good man, thanks. Something to think about as I might end up selling my Maschine MK3 because Iām hardly using it so would have some cash to fund one!
Definitely be interested in seeing video if you ever get round to finishing it.
Bought one of these last week. Arrived today.
Sending it back because one of the encoders was DOA.
Apart from that it sounds fantastic. Easy to use and program.
Love it but for that one blemish.
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Good evening.Īow can we send from ableton to toraiz sp16?Let say we have a vst how will it go out?What are the settings?thanx
Basically this:
You need an out from your audio interface into the inputs of the SP.
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This is the only way? There is no way to play the pads and get sound from vst plugin? to write directly to the sequencer?
USB midi