Of the two retail websites I buy from in the US one place says they are on back order and the other says they have one in stock with more on the way. I really wish we knew if it was discontinued or not. I’d seriously consider buying a back up even though I can’t really afford it at the moment if they were going to stop making them.
I’m sure lots of people outside this thread would have all kinds of good reasons to disagree but its the best sampling groovebox I’ve ever used workflow wise.
Alto has them in stock, Sweetwater has one in stock, and about 6 other companies on Reverb have new units in stock. Seems par for the course.
Cool. Sweetwater was one place I checked. A while back they said they were getting more colored TD-3s and delivered on that.
I got my SP-16 this week.
I have two questions (beginners questions sorry for that) How can I sequence my soft synths in Ableton as midi channel on the SP-16? How can i use the 8 outs, do I need 8 free outputs on my interface or do I have to connect them to a mixer?And does he also record the DSI Filters in Ableton?
Thanks in advance!
How did you connect the DT with the SP16?
And was the DT the master or slave? Gr
I don’t use Ableton so I’ll let someone else answer that.
As for the 8 outs either of your suggestions would work, having 8 outs on your interface or using a mixer. I’d read up on the implementation of the filter as using the 8 outputs might bypass it, I’m not 100% though as I’ve not yet used them. I’ve not been in the studio for a long while now but if I remember correctly the SP-16 currently lets you select which tracks go through the DSI filter. Also, if you render audio to a USB stick it still runs things through the DSI filter (which is a really cool feature I think). Again, I’m a bit foggy on all things related to the DSI filter.
When I had the DT and SP-16 synced by MIDI it was: SP-16 MIDI Out > DT MIDI In. The DT has to be setup to receive Clock and Sync/Transport and the SP-16 needs to be setup to send Clock and Sync/Transport. So the SP-16 was the master, DT slave.
Pick a pad, change its type from “Sample” to “Midi”, set the midi channel to match the midi channel of the track in Ableton you have your soft synth on and you’re good to go. Make sure you have the SP16 set up correctly in Ableton’s preferences also: make sure you have “Track” enabled on the SP16 Midi Input and “Sync” enabled on the SP16 Midi Output (assuming you have Ableton running as master).
On your SP16 in its settings pane, you need to set midi clock to external (midi in or usb in I think, depending on how you are connected to your computer) — again assuming that Ableton runs as your master.
So you don’t HAVE to use the 8 outs, they’re there to allow you to route different sounds to different inputs/channels. If you want to capture eg Kicks on 1/2, Snares on 3/4, Hats on 5/6 and everything else on 7/8, you’d need an audio interface with eight line inputs to do this all in parallel and on separate tracks in your DAW. If you want to just record it all on a single stereo track, using one pair of outputs is enough.
Not exactly sure what you are after here, but the DSI Filter gets recorded on the main outputs when you affect the whole mix with it (you can choose whether the DSI filter should affect the whole mix or individual pads).
You could probably also route audio from Ableton through the SP16 and its filter. To do this, have a set of your interface’s outputs run through your SP16’s inputs, choose a pad (eg pad 16) and set it to “THRU” then set the filter to affect that pad (eg pad 16). Now you should be able to affect whatever comes through the SP16 with the analog DSI filter directly.
hello everyone I have a question I can exchange an Elektron A4 for my digitakt,who is using and how do you use the A4 with the Sp 16 routed the A4 Into the SP 16 and make the A4 the slave en SP 16 the master? Or a different approach? Thanks!
By routed, do you mean midi or audio, or both?
Hi Midi and audio
Thanks!
Trading an A4 for a Digitakt is quite a trade in the sense that they are really two very different boxes that do very different things. That said, if you also have an SP16, then it might be a trade that makes sense, as the SP16 can take over most of the Digitakt’s capabilities. Also, an A4 is generally equal to or more expensive than a Digitakt on the used market, and the A4 is a cool device!
Re integration with the SP16, that sort of depends how you want to control things / work with things. In terms of audio, you could route the A4’s main outputs into the SP16’s main inputs which would allow you to sample the A4 in realtime. Alternatively you could use one of the SP16’s outputs to route them to the A4’s inputs, which would allow you to use the A4’s reverb, delay and chorus on your SP16’s pads/samples. Personally, I’d probably choose to route the A4 through the SP16, since the SP16 has it’s own effects per pad and this way I’d feel I gain more.
Re midi, there are different ways to connect these two machines, it really depends on what you want to do and achieve, as the A4 also has a sequencer, which is very powerful.
Thank you!
Hi, and about midi I can leave the SP 16 the master and the A4 the slave and if I press start of the SP 16 that the A4 will also run, so can I also use the nice extended elektron seq? can I also use the delay and reverbe of the A4 for the SP 16 and the DSI filters of the SP 16 for the analog four ? The A4 sample in the SP 16 is also a good idea.
Dope! just with the SP 16?
What @hausland said…
Also, you can route them to each other at the same time: A4 going into the SP-16 input, and simultaneously have the one of each of the sub outs 1&2 going to the A4 inputs, basically as two sends to the A4 fx (you can set up the routing to assign a SP track to sub outs and main out simultaneously) …and if I wanted a minimal setup this is the way I would go.
Right now I am using the A4 ins for a DFAM and Modbase… if the output was routed to the SP with one of its pads set to monitor as a thru track, that could also be a nice self-contained rig.
About midi: the SP wants to be the master as it can get out of sync when changing patterns otherwise.
Nice set up! And thanks for your ideas👌
Also I’d like to add that having the A4’s proper ping-pong delay and deep reverb to add to SP-16 tracks is ** chef’s kiss **
And obviously being able to quickly make long stereo samples (mono or poly) to free up the A4 tracks is super useful.
The two really compliment each other really well in general.
Thank you!
Yes, I believe those are all samples, so 100% SP 
I’ll usually sync something like the SH01A up to the SP if I want odd numbered patterns.
Love your post and LOVE that skin on your SP16, both very inspiring!
This is not true unfortunately. Resampling does run through the filter though.
