I meant it doesn’t have kits that can be transferred across projects easily. Like programs on an MPC.
So I don’t have to rebuild the same basic drum setup each time I want a 909 etc.
I usually just have template projects, but that can be limiting depending on what I’m doing.
Hoping there’s something I overlooked though.
I actually kinda does though, if you look at Scenes as “kits”. Just export a Scene with all the samples in it you’d want (say a full 909 kit) and it gets saved to the “Export list”… then you can import that scene into your current Project (I usually put it in slot 16). It’s even easy to move individual samples/tracks between loaded Scenes if you only wanted a few sounds from the one you imported to be combined with the main Scene you’re using. Then you can copy that main Scene to other slots and modify the samples/sequences for variation, transitions etc.
AND as a bonus, if you move only a few samples/tracks from the imported Scene and then delete it from the current Project, all those extra samples won’t be loaded up later (freeing up memory and Scene slots…)
It’s a bit of a workaround, but once you get used to it there are many advantages.
I’ve kept my SP-16 but also own a DJS-1000. My desk space is limited so for right now I’m only using the DJS-1000.
I like the DJS-1000 for all the same reasons I love my SP-16. It’s easy, fast, and sounds great. The DJS has some nice things the SP doesn’t which is why given the choice, I’m working with the DJS. The DJS has mutes per pattern and a few other workflow things the SP doesn’t. For example, holding SCALE down on the DJS takes you to the scale page.
Also. My favorite thing about the DJS and SP is Live recording. It’s unbelievably easy and fast to record sequences in from other gear. And you’re jamming doesn’t have to stop. Love that.
I don’t use them live as in perform outside my house. But, I record all my jams and tracks live.
Both are keepers. Forever keepers.
Superstar. No idea how I missed something like that but glad to hear it.
Becauce it’s not obvious 
I think I learned that trick from @circuitghost years ago in this thread.
Pretty much every limitation of the SP-16 is workaround-able… the biggest ones for me are sequencer inflexibility (sequence those tracks with Elektrons via midi instead), polyphony (copy sample to multiple tracks, sequence and resample) and the crappy reverb (use outs as sends).
Also, don’t know if I’ve mentioned it recently in this thread… but the functionality of the Dave Smith filter is a HUGE thing for me. Whenever I record anything from the SP into Ableton I do the tracks individually through the filter, tweaking the hipass, lowpass and drive realtime as it’s recording. Helps tracks have their EQ’ing and realtime performance “baked-in”, giving life to recordings that I might be too lazy to add later in the DAW.
Glad to hear I made a difference somewhere, at some point
I feel like at some point I’ll probably end up buying a DJS-1000 as well.
Just to add generally to the conversation and as an addendum to why I love it–even if it ends up not working out as a live performance device for me, its brilliant to get tracks started and then get the bones rendered into the DAW.
The DJS-1000 is the Toraiz with just one fx slot, no DS filter but mute groups, right?
I never knew this, thanks!
Big timesaver.
Yes. Only 1 FX slot. No arranger and no Dave Smith filter and drive.
What’s the workflow like? It looks different so I imagine you work it differently as well.
Pretty much the same. Just depends on what you prefer to have, or can live without.
But more than that, I always love getting the opportunity to reshare this
Is it easy in live recording mode to capture the external loops just right? I remember there is no quantise function when you hit record on a pad?
Thanks for the good tips here!
No quantize but it’s easy to hit record on the one and the loops get captured pretty accurately.
I’m not a finger drummer (or drummer) so I’m fairly sloppy with my timing. But having said that, I rarely have to rerecord a live loop. I think the box does some behind the scene’s quantize…
That’s good to know. I was hoping they might have sorted the quasi-issues with DJ Link on the DJS-1000. I can beat match house and techno just fine by ear, but if I’m doing a bunch of other stuff, it is one more thing I have to pay attention to lol
All this talk is making me think I really need to dig into mine again. I got one second hand last May fully knowing about its limitations, problems etc - I think I found about this forum when looking for info about it actually. Life etc got in the way after initially using it quite a lot then got an SP 404mk2 which has pretty much taken over my away from the DAW music making. Still hoping to team them up.
One thing I don’t like about the sampling (of course I could be doing it wrong or in a weird way - it’s also been a while) but when recording in via Thru say I set that up on Pad 16, record my sample in, save it, then it’s basically gone from the pad and I have to find it in the browser and load it again. Is that right anyone? Maybe I’m just spoiled with the 404mk2 as it’s as easy as record to a pad and it’s there… on the pad. No saving, no filenames etc. Much more immediate.
Use “save and replace.” I only just figured this out myself lol
Oooooh shit, thank you!!
I need to get my head around the whole filesystem in general, I’ve made a terrible mess but worried moving/deleting anything is going to trash my projects 