Roland TR-06 Boutique

nilsec · January 15, 2021, 9:51pm

Watch this.

finalform · January 15, 2021, 9:53pm

But ignore the bit where he selects the wrong sound in the TR-06 for the blind comparison.

darenager · January 15, 2021, 10:18pm

Full midi CC for one thing. RD-6 has very basic midi.

pselodux · January 15, 2021, 10:26pm

My reasons:

Adjustable sounds
USB audio with individual outs
Enhanced sequencer
Trig outs
Boutique form factor + metal enclosure is very solidly built
Behringer one looks weird
Behringer’s behaviour over the past year has made me ashamed to buy any of their machines (just a personal stance; I don’t care if others buy their products)

darenager · January 15, 2021, 10:32pm

No love for bad design cues and weird colours? Me nether

GovernorSilver · January 15, 2021, 10:54pm

I went with the Roland based on comments/analysis vs. the RD-6 that was posted on this thread months ago.

I don’t believe in blindly choosing something just because it’s analog. I will take well-designed and good sounding digital over crap analog anyday.

pselodux · January 15, 2021, 11:11pm

This 100%!

finalform · January 15, 2021, 11:12pm

… or just because it’s cheaper.

pselodux · January 15, 2021, 11:13pm

The entire Behringer range has drastically reduced in price in Australia in the past 24 hours, the prices are ridiculous now.

GovernorSilver · January 15, 2021, 11:24pm

I ordered my TR-06 for about $330-ish. RD-6 is $180 in this country. I didn’t think it was worth saving the money. If somebody else thinks it is for them, that’s their business.

Microtribe · January 15, 2021, 11:28pm

Didnt know that. Shops are probably struggling to sell them, which doesnt surprise me at all.
“But why is it so cheap?”

darenager · January 15, 2021, 11:59pm

Probably not shifting, even for someone into clones of old gear there is only so much of it you want/have money for/mixer channels/physical space/midi channels etc. I think maybe Behringer over estimated demand, I mean how many colours of RD-6 and TD-3 are there, 10 or so?

Then when you look at offerings from other companies with more modern features, better design, for not much more money, some of those potential Behringer customers are going to choose the alternatives, and of course Behringer does not have the best reputation due to their behaviour.

Also I think fielding customers for what your company should make is a very dumb business decision, people are pretty fickle and what they say today might be different in 6 months, by the time that thing they said they wanted hits the market.

Hey ho.

t · January 16, 2021, 7:56am

Roland just did a very good job on the TR-06. With the 08 and 09 they made exact replicas with a few very minor enhancements, with the TR-06 they probably were more like “Ok, what would we do in 2020 if we were to make a compact performance drum machine? How would they way people want to use such a thing be different from what people did in the early 80s?” And then they proceeded adding a lot of nifty tweaks and new features without taking away from the original.

It’s not just a replica; it’s more like a redesign.

olafmol · January 16, 2021, 9:54am

It’s so cheap because in essence the designs are simple, they are now free to re-use, and if you can apply automation and scale as behringer can , they can be produced cheap as chips.

kuroichi · January 16, 2021, 9:55am

As above. The tr06 feels like they actually tried to enhance the original without straying too far away. Something Roland doesn’t do enough.

I get that the td6 is analog but honestly that isn’t everything. Lots of people use it as a crutch for failing to try and compose and/or mix better.

For analog I went for the Acidlab Drumatix. But it had to be returned due to some faults.

shinobi · January 16, 2021, 11:58am

Ok… i see why Roland over Behringer.
But why n0t get a TR6s?
Thinking…

finalform · January 16, 2021, 12:44pm

More present hands-on control, trigger outs, slightly different 606 model (they made a new ACB model for the 06 that is more aggressive). The TR-6S is a cool box though.

GovernorSilver · January 16, 2021, 7:57pm

I considered this question as well.

Once I decided to get a Matriarch, I went with TR-06 for the multiple trigger outs - a no-brainer for patching to Matriarch gate inputs for all kinds of fun.

I think there are a couple of people on this thread who got TR-06 and are leaning the other way now, because the sound is different as mentioned. TR-6S is more like the little bro of the TR-8S, including the new FM engine.

pselodux · January 16, 2021, 8:26pm

I love the 606 and wanted a modern version. I have other machines that can act as all-in-one grooveboxes so didn’t need the relative freedom of the 6s.

finalform · January 16, 2021, 8:28pm

This… I had a TR-8S and sold it to go all in on ARmk2. I didn’t need a worse TR-8S, I wanted a 606+.