I wonder if this thing makes sense as push like abelton controller - generating ideas with it should be totally doable?
sorry, I was being a little sarcastic ā¦ its amazing how many times you read someone say ā¦
āmy X sequencer/synth does this, so this should do tooā 
as if everything should be a superset of something else, and theres a rulebook for what products should include !
as I said, you can only assume a slide of overlap if its mono. it makes no sense (outside of MPE) in a polyphonic sequenceā¦ since you likely have overlaps anyway.
ā¦ so this kind of implies a mono like mode, which doesnāt exist.
(even then weād need options, since I donāt want slides I want high note priority etc)
as for CV (as in v/oct)ā¦ of course pitchbend matters ā¦ since thats our current units
we have NOTE placed on (chromatic) grid, so the only way off that currently is to use pitchbend.
and as I said, yes it would be nice if that was taken into account of with a v/oct output.
(but I fear not currently, as you need pitchbend range to do this)
(of course, you could automate cv manually, but thats not really the point is it, but is where I said, if it summed it might work ā¦ awkwardly)
ā¦ and then that brings use back to my comments about the discussion of note editing, and if squarp could represents things as fractional pitchā¦
this would required PBR for midi, but NOT for cv ā¦ since v/oct is already fractional.
what I love about hapax and squarp in generalā¦ is they are really on top of this stuff,
most of itās been thought of alreadyā¦ but of course implementation vs ideas always lags!
you mean like have a controller mode?
whilst im sure not that hard on the hardware - just needs to send midi for each button press (as the Push 2 does) , and have a way to put things to the display.
the issue, is in practice writing the control script and software for Mac/Windows is then a major undertakingā¦ and why just Live, what about Bitwigā¦
Its pretty much another product development.
thats said, I really enjoy using it with a Daw (be it Live/Bitwig) or VCVRack, where they just become sound generatorsā¦ so I have hands on sequencing, but with the power of my computer for sounds.
ā¦ its a cool combo.
of course, you could then track the midi into your daw at the end if you wishedā¦ e.g. record an āarrangementā or performance. (if you want the end result to be in your DAW)
Oh, they said slide? Sorry.
(and duly noted about this but being polyphonic, so wouldnāt work anyway)
k, so my suspicions were correctā¦
pitchbend is not used for v/oct outputs.
however, if you create a cv out automation lane (on same output) , this is summed with the v/oct output, so you can create glides this way, its pretty simple - since you can copy paste bits of the automation around.
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I was reading through the manual and did not see the delay midi effect. Is it not in the hapax? I loved it with the pyramid and it would be odd to remove itā¦
yeah, itās not in there ā¦ no idea why.
I suspect itāll be back at some point in the future.
Thanks for the quick reply, I assume you are probably right!
If youāre talking about glide between notes, like a portamento, thatās a particular type of sound, (like whether an osc is saw or square or what the amp env looks like) and thus strikes me as a feature of the instrument or patch, not of the sequence.
On a synth, for example, some patches you want to have that āglideā sound, some you donāt. So you can usually turn portamento on and off, and set the glide time, etc. per patch. On a modular youād do this with slew, and youād either patch it in or not depending on the sound youāre going for.
The sequencer just says what notes those instruments/patches should play, not how they should sound. If we āhard codedā glide into the sequence, somehow, then it would play even on instruments/patches that werenāt meant to have that āglideā sound and would be a little weird.
Think of it like sheet music. You can put a slur between notes to indicate those notes should be played without separation. But how that actually sounds is determined by the instrument. On a violin, maybe there will be a glide between the notes. But on a piano, the notes will be played legato, but not with glide because thatās just not how a piano sounds.
Same thing here. The Hapax is the sheet music. The things it controls are the violins and pianos. Whether they have a āglideā sound or not is the responsibility of the instruments, not the Hapax.
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The Pyramid has a setting to double tap to glide notes. With the caveat that āGlides only works with compatible synthsā (quoted from the manual). Honestly, Iāve never tried to see whether this works with any of my synths. Neither have I checked to see what this actually does on the Midi side. Maybe it just makes sure note on/offs are aligned in a certain way which could be done manually as well?
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Yeah, it just adjusts the note length such that it slightly overlaps with the next one. Itās the sequencer equivalent of sheet musicās slur.
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I understand what youāre saying, but sometimes you donāt want all notes to have portamento, but only certain ones. With midi you could usually achieve this with overlapping notes and turning on ālegatoā. But with cv and gate, this isnāt possible. Some sequencers do allow legato style portamento (303 style) by actually sending a slewed cv signal on certain notes. For example; the beatstep pro, TD-3, TT-303.
Not really a must, but nice to have 
it would probably require another track type, specifically for CV/gate. Weāll see wether theyāll implement something like that
Btw, on sheet music, you also have notations for specific parts where you would need to play portamento
Thatās what slew modules are for - no?
Anyway , send an FR to Squarpā¦ they get to decide
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Sure, thatās another way to do it.
I will not send this as a feature request, as I was just replying to another oneās question
As I said, would be nice to have, but for me it is not really important as I do most things with midi anyway
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Iāve been slowly catching up on this thread and the excellent videos from Technobear and RMR and this device will definitely feature in my futureā¦ there is so much about that just clicks with me. Iāve got a few projects that Iām working on that are have specific setups and Iām doing NoGearNewYear so the back order situation doesnāt bother me (unless it lasts for 9 months!!).
You know, it does sound slightly counter-intuitive to use something with so much connectivity for USB midi only but I reckon that would be my first approach for learning the Hapax functionality withouth the various complexities of MIDI devices and CV. Just point Hapax at Live with a bunch of Reaktor instances on different channels for an EP.
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It depends on the instrument, of course. But if you want some slurred/legato/overlapped notes to play with portamento and some not, the way Iād expect this to work is:
- For MIDI, send a CC that turns portamento mode of the instrument on or off.
- For modular, patch a gate to the slew thatās high when you want it and low when you donāt.
Both of which are easily achievable with Hapaxās autom mode, as I understand it.
Would it be nice for a sequencer to be able to āfakeā the sound of a CV slew for those instruments that donāt implement this on their own? Sure! Itās also be cool to have just, like, an arbitrary function generator to output our own oscillators or LFOs or envelopes in cse our setup doesnāt have any (or enough) of one of those.
But, like you say, itās all ānice to havesā.
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I can achieve 303-style Glide on Pyramid by just increasing note length for a given Step from 1 to 2+ (up to 16 if you want it to hold a note the entire 4/4 bar). works on TD-3 and Cyclone TT-303. assume Hapax has the same Step-level control over note length
Arrived in Northern California! No duties, though I wonder if Iāll get a bill in the mail later.
First impressions - built really solid. Heavier than it looks. I like the buttons better than the ones on Pyramid and Hermod. Markings for the inputs/outputs on the back are engraved, but also in black, so I can imagine it being difficult to see in low light situations.
First play on it is promising. Itās a lot easier to just dive into making stuff rather than Pyramid or Hermod. As a heavy user of both, itās certainly welcome, though the new UI will take a little time to get used to (like having dedicated buttons for things instead of needing to remember button combos) It really feels like a Squarp sequencer with bits of Elektron, Deluge, and others in there.
Super, super promising - especially considering the state Pyramid and Hermod were in when they first came out.
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Alright, for those who are interested in an idiotās first impressions, here are some:
Had an hour this evening, and managed to turn it on, plug in 2 synths and a drum machine, adjust the midi channels, rename the tracks, set a master scale and play some stuff, generate some stuff, send some cv to a dfam, and all without looking at the manual.
I had to look up how to get in chord mode.
Thatās a fuck load further Iāve gotten without refering to manual or video than pretty much all sequencers I have owned or currently own. Itās very intuitive, stuff is laid out logically and from what Iāve seen so far, anyone familiar with electron workflow would find this similar.
Obviously, more complex functions are going to require reading but I canāt believe how far I got with this so quickly (I literally took me 2 months to feel comfortable understanding the T1). The pads are great for playing and drawing in shapes; the build is good, and the plasticy knobs are quite nice to use (despite my earlier reservations).
I am looking forward to learning more.
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Question on mono/poly and CV. Since thereās no mono mode and everything is Poly. If using a track to output CV and you set two notes on the same step, what happens? Which notes winās in the battle of whoās voltage gets sent out?
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Wonāt be able to test CV until I get home later, but on USB MIDI with a monosynth, the highest note seems to take precedence (actually could be newest note, but Iāll properly test on CV later tonight).