Guys,
It’s a bit lame how you make assumptions here that the analog series will no longer be supported, that support will end, no more updates will come, etc.
This will certainly not make the elektron team change plans.
It is very unlikely that no more upgrade comes, because the analog series is still sold and also only two years ago the black edition was released.
After the Digitakt upgrade the sample thing is perhaps in an observation phase, of course, not the best idea to push the thing on another tool 3 weeks later.
Make music with the devices and do not think that you make more after upgrading.
My AR is not boring even without an upgrade and I can process endless ideas, such if I would like a 2nd LFO and a better sample engine.
I think at the very least the ARmk2 should get the “raw” synth engine that syntakt has as well as the sampling updates the digitakt got. A second LFO and bandwidth filter would be absolutely amazing but I don’t know if that conflicts with any hardware limitations.
From what I understand “Raw” synth engine for ARmk2 should be doable as its the same analog hardware as syntakt, and likewise as far as digitakt sample chopping goes…
Certain people on this forum insisted that the Analog 4 would never have the capability to midi sequence external gear - that it just wasn’t possible, or that Elektron would never do it. Same thing with song mode on the DT/DN.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Elektron keeps adding features to the AR in the future.
Yes, that’s clear. But the devices are different, because you can be so creative with the parameter locks and then don’t have to draw everything in the DAW. but the control of their external devices… that would be a cool feature.
Am I missing something? How can anyone reasonably expect a BW filter to be added to this thing?
It’s an analog drum machine with a complete analog path from source to output; there is no place in that chain where you can put a digital filter and still claim the machine is analog.
Additional LFOs would be pretty damn helpful, though. I feel this way about the newer machines, too - even 2 LFOs just isn’t enough, especially when you often have to use LFOs to work around limitations, for instance using a fast pan to “stereoize” a sound, or the expo LFO because the normal amp envelope isn’t tight enough, or audio rate LFO to tune or filter cutoff for FM sounds or to level for AM effects since there is otherwise no ring mod capability. Y’know, all the creative stuff to make your sounds unique or interesting, but especially on the AR doing any of that makes it seem like you don’t have an LFO at all for real movement, since you’ve pretty much sacrificed it for utility. Hell, someone here is using the LFO as a better fine tune for sample start because the existing sample start isn’t accurate enough. Crazy.
sample playback is digital, if it would be BW on samples alone it would be great, otherwise A4 has 2 filters per voice so maybe adding simple dj style HP/LP would work too…
Right on, I could see that being possible, just didn’t seem that when people asked for a BW filter that they meant “only for samples”. Just seemed like a far fetched feature request. I could see it living as an additional page of SAMPLE settings, since putting in the FILTER menus would be inconsistent and confusing.
I can imagine another LFO being added but I’m pretty sure the A4 has 2x the hardware for analog filters that the Rytm does, and no amount of firmware can add that.
I had always assumed when people discussed BW filter they meant on the sample only. I cannot see Elektron putting a digital filter on the A R’s signal chain.
The filter does low, high and band pass. I don’t know anything about filter circuits: could the band-pass mode be updated to allow BW controls, rather than the current fixed width?