Dylanâs lyrics, Brian Wilsonâs compositions, Jimiâs skills are not mediocre.
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Still, imo, not the best poetry humanity produced.
And btw⌠poetry in NOT music.
Skills are not music.
And comparing Beach Boys to Beethoven im not even gonna comment.
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Although, having said all of that, the 1960âs were full of proto metal tracks, but what Iâd give to live in a world where those first 3 notes of âblack Sabbathâ are entirely new to me.
Because as much as there were plenty of âfirst metal songsâ in the 60s, âBlack Sabbathâ was the first and last word in being metal as fuck, Sabbath could have written that and all fucked off to be accountants immedately afterwards and it would still be the source of all the righteous evil in the world.
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NO. Definitely not. Did not deserve the Nobel; even he will probably admit that (and imo did with that âspeechâ)
And Western harmonic rules arenât the whole game either.
Wish I could heart more than once
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Only if you compare them to the rest of popâŚ
Look into Modern Era music and youâll see people wrote better lyrics in languages they barely spoke, wrote better and more sophisticated compositions, for more than just 8 voices or so.
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Beach boys > Beethoven
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How are we defining Dylan anyway? I really donât know enough about him other than some of his bigger acoustic guitar and harmonica tracks in the earlier days.
Westbam > Beach Boys
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imo the best analog to Dylan is Steve Jobs. Jobs wasnât an inventor, but he propelled digital access to music with Apple computers.
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LEONARD BERNSTEIN
There is a new song, too complex to get all of first time around. It could come only out of the ferment that characterizes todayâs pop music scene. Brian Wilson, leader of the famous Beach Boys, and one of todayâs most important musicians, sings his own âSurfâs Up.âPoetic, beautiful even in its obscurity, âSurfâs Upâ is one aspect of new things happening in pop music today. As such, it is a symbol of the change many of these young musicians see in our future.
PHILIP GLASS
Pet Sounds became an instant classic when it first appeared. Listening to it today, it is, perhaps, easier to see why it was one of the defining moments of its timeâŚits willingness to abandon formula in favor of structural innovation, the introduction of classical elements in the arrangements, production concepts in terms of overall âsoundâ which were novel at the time, all these elements give Pet Sounds a freshness that, thirty years later, is immediately there for the listener.
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Weirdly, my Buttholes Surfers t- shirt did exactly that at a club once.
And Coil are probably the Buttholes Surfers analogue. Or the Jack Officers are, obviously.
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Now if weâre talking about the beach boysâŚ
Beautifully simple, endlessly dense and complex.
A level of songwriting, compositional and performing skill beyond anything I could ever comprehend.
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Hereâs a hot-take, pretentious comparison:
Beach Boys - Socrates/ Plato ; Beatles - Aristotle.
Beatles were cool and had a supportive network and won out in the end. Brian didnât have any of that and thus his transcendence was lost.
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Nobody. Dylan was mostly raw and unplugged. Electronic music is not unplugged.
Really depends on what you define electronic music as.
There are acts that play live electronic instruments and it can get pretty wild. Is that electronic music?
When Keith passed I put on Prodigy in the car and had to pull over immediately because I started crying so hard.
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Hope you werent on the hard shoulder.
I didnât mean to dis him. Wilburyâs are ACE.
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Me too man, I cried like a child more than once putting prodigy tracks on. I canât think of many people from my teens whoâs existence simply said âyou can be as odd and messed up as you like and still make it in the worldâ. Before Keith, walking around with purple hair, eye make up or a mohawk was a guaranteed arse kicking in my hometown. After Keith it dropped to about a 50% chance of an arse kicking.
I still canât watch the video for Firestarter though.
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