I feel like we could go down the rabbit hole on this one. To some degree, all presets across different machines made by the same company are the same - starting with the most basic element like an oscillator
this is what happens when the Vortex starts to bring down the walls between the Mpc and the Plugin worldā¦
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I think everybody has their opinion, no need to resort to insults. Some people see some worth in these plugins, others would have preferred AKAI improves the base sampling engine to allow people to make more complex programs and articulations. Not only it would have allowed users to have more instances of orchestral sounds, to control programs via external program changes, and at the same time, but it would have also benefited AKAI in terms of sales.
I started to use fm8, which i already own, it has 6 operators, no need to buy it from akai. Dexed is free fm synth i belive. For 50 ā¬ i would consider it for standalone operation if it would support macro controls to an extend.
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Money is the vortex.
I donāt think you should buy it, but it does support macroās. Or you mean through midi? It has eight macroās built in.
Nah, some people like that guy deserve to be called out.
They make mostly incorrect videos to push an agenda while shilling their own overpriced stuff.
Then you have community members keep repeating those points without even verifying if they are true.
The thing is, the patch in Fabric XL is called Classical Grand, the same patch in Stage Piano is called Rock Grand. Even if one of the plugins have additional processing, why are the patches named in a way that implies they are different multi-sampled instruments, when it is in fact the same instrument?
This is the definition of snake oil.
You can go on with the personal attacks all you like, but you are missing my point, which was to share a specific sound comparisons. It was never my intention to go off topic and discuss how people feel about specific youtubers.
You still donāt get it, there are five multisampled pianoāsā¦ patches are different settings of one of those, same way all the workstations workā¦ each plug in will have different takes on the same patches. You canāt call something a classical grand on stage piano because theyāre are two classical grand multisamplesā¦ understand what Iām saying?
And I have never said a personal attack other then that YouTuber giving all kinds of wrong information. I have nothing against him personally.
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Yeah I get it. Itās a fine line and in my world this is a way to make a product appear to be more than it is. So what makes it a āRock grandā? It is surely not the additional synthesis? Because they sounds identical to me. Is it that one has 2% reverb send or a 3% eq boost to the lower mids? 
Iām not going to keep on about this. We could go on foreverā¦ I could even spend a day and make a spreadsheet of patch comparisons but that is a waste of time.
Iām not saying these plugs are not valuble, all Iām saying is that I personally dislike this type of marketing/product design. And based on what Iāve heard, Iād rather spend the 500$ to get high-end rompler sounds from NI and run them in controller mode. If I need a low/mid-range piano to mangle or sketch with Iāll just use a keygroup. But thatās just me! Iām probably not even in the target audienceā¦
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No you are not, if anyone is willing to use a computer, or even a modern Yamaha, thru can get better sounds definitely. I think most understand this, and it is about convenience. Patches are just thatā¦ I also hate when companies advertise 3000 sounds!! when in fact they are just small changes to the underlying synthesisā¦ but they all pretty much do that in the rompler spaceā¦ it is a marketing gimmick I agreeā¦ but I donāt think it is some conspiracy to to peopleās off, like I said, they all do itā¦ I like to make sounds from the initial samples. I do think these hold up with the other romplerās thoughā¦ I have compared them with them all under $2000 and the Akai is no worseā¦ they are all just different and better at certain things, but thatās my opinion.
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And also, a rock grand just means it is a grand piano patch that will sit up front in the mix and be more in the middle as far as eq to not take up room from bass and vocals.
Technically my phone keeps using that word for some reason. I meant they.
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Did you miss my self correction above? 
Akai forcing consumers to buy their plugins will go down as one of the great injustices of our time.
Our children will ask us āWhere were you when Akai compelled you to purchase their scamware?ā
Will we have the fortitude to carry on or are we doomed to a life of adequate sounding bloatware?
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Nobody is forced to buy anything obviously, but this shift to service at the expense of core capabilities AKA the Roland model, is creating a walled garden which not only excludes third party devs (who canāt create plugins for the MPC) but also penalize third party expansion creators for which the sampling engine remains limited in stupid ways (no mod matrix, no free running LFOā¦).
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Mpc is not a full featured samplerā¦ well the 4000 was, but usually not. Maybe they will make a full featured samplerā¦ but they canāt just add features that kills the traditional structure. It has always been four layersā¦ now I mod matrix, I could get down with that!!
I still remember where I was when Akai offered the plug-in bundle. A chill went down my spine as I was forced to enter my credit card information. Unable to say no I felt an unseen force guiding my mouse hand, hovering the pointer over the checkout button.
Unable to make the choice myself I could feel Akaiās cold, shrill hand reaching into my bank account and prying the money from my grasp.
Iāve reached out to the FBI hotline but havenāt heard anything back yet.
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