Novation Circuit Rhythm and Circuit Tracks

Brilliant thanks for your help :slightly_smiling_face:

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So, can you assign from the new Circuit on what midi tracks will send its midi information to another multi timbral/multitrack gear? I want to use the new Circuit with my MC 101, so I want to be able to run 2 of the MC 101 tracks through the Circuits Tracks sequencer.

Even on the original circuit, you could choose the midi channels for the tracks. So should be no problem.

Is it possible to chose to which midi channel a track responds on the mc101? If so, it should work.

Maybe you can store the midi channels per pack on the new circuit, maybe it is global… I don’t know yet, maybe it is in the manual…

As a midi sequencer it gets interesting though, not gonna lie.

It is a bit late for a circuit MK2 but they nailed it for the most part.

Will that have a renewed cult following like the OG Circuit ? It remains to be seen…

Owners of a TR6-s and/or MC101 setup looking for a mixer will take a hard look at this because of the sequencing possibilities and the audio IN.

Like many, I had decent tracks started on the OG Circuit but 16 steps patterns would cut short the excitement. Now with the 32 steps it is a lot more usable.

Price is still enticing, lets see what guys can do with it. Pretty sure we ll all fly to the stores when guys make it sing in a super small portable setup.
I can see cats with a MC101 and a Typhon lacing whole songs in a hearbeat, I remember the Circuit workflow being the absolute fastest when I had one.

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I was thinking: since there are midi tracks with custom templates, you could map the CC’s from Circuit synth, make a midi loopback and edit the parameters straight from the Circuit… But no, not possible, you can’t assign the same channel to two tracks.

Could work with a small, battery powered midi processor inbetween, or with the rk002 cable with the right firmware though.

Edit: if I remember well, most of the parameters from the OG were NRPN anyway.

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Interesting, maybe worth a try via computer / iPad midi router to check if it makes sense

Just watched loopop’s video and as an original Circuit owner I’m wondering - what do any other Circuit owners see as the biggest change from the old to the new model? For me, besides the obvious new MIDI tracks and input, I’d have to say probability is pretty big for me.

I’m still shocked that they didn’t include multitrack USB Audio, which for me would dramatically distinguish the new from the old…

And the sample memory is still so short? I’m confused about why they did that when they’re coming out with a dedicated drum-machine-oriented sampler. I would think that creating a dedicated drum machine sampler would mean that the sample playback capabilities on the TRACKS could be more oriented toward non-percussive samples, which could be longer. Weird choice imho!

For me it is the scenes and the improved workflow. Also SD Card for loading different packs from the hardware is big… really the sum of all the improvements.

Yep, no usb audio is sad…

Look what just arrived:

I will test it the next days and report back…

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Currently 15% off on Music Matters UK ebay store. That price made it an easier decision for me, looking forward to it arriving now.

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Biggest innovation, sd card & improvement of the workflow

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the only groovebox of comparable price that has USB audio is MC-101.

but Novation/Focusrite is nowhere near as big as Roland, and Circuit is not a cut-down version of bigger machines with tons of bells and whistles (unlike 101, which is just the only budget model model in big Zen-Core line).

so, adding USB audio would put Circuit to different price league.

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I am going to push back on this a bit and posit that even 1 stereo pair out over a class compliant USB connection would not have added significant cost to the Circuit Tracks. I have a friend that’s been looking into USB audio out for his products and he has been surprised by how simple and cheap it is.

Then again, Roland totally botched implementation of class compliant USB audio, so :woman_shrugging:

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Can anyone check the format of those packs on the card? I am still waiting for mine and I’m planning to write an iOS app for quick sample swapping

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I think the technique for USB audio isn’t all that messy. It’s all them drivers on different systems and those operative systems that keep changing, that causes the long and enduring pain of any USB audio development.

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And with the audio in & different synths on midi track, you want all the audio by usb :money_mouth_face:

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Designing products is all about tradeoffs. As someone who’s been doing FW and consumer electronics for roughly 20 years (including a 10 yr stint at Fender), I can tell you this is largely dependent upon the architecture under the hood and design margins. There are no teardowns of the Tracks that I’m aware of, but I have strong suspicion that based on Novation’s comments the tracks is probably similar architecturally to the original Circuit (a low cost ARM cortex controller for all the IO, USB, and sequencing coupled with a DSP). If that’s the case, I could easily see a situations where the DSP has all the I2S outputs utilized or the micro has no free peripherals for I2S in, preventing Novation from adding UAC support without increased costs to the consumer (bumping the DSP or micro up a tier).

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Does anybody know if its possible to use old sound-packs I’ve bought on the isotonik-page for the original Circuit on the new Circuit Tracks? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

I don’t own a Tracks but I opened the Tracks Components App and tried loading a OG circuit patch into the grid and it accepted it ok… whether it loads to the machine is another matter, but the synth engine is identical so I don’t see why not.

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I was watching a couple of jams uploaded by Gabe Miller today and he was using two last gen circuit patch packs from isotonik so it would appear that these transfer over ok.

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Thank you for providing this insight!

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