Novation Circuit Rhythm and Circuit Tracks

Obviously @Calc may confirm otherwise, but given your post is the first I’ve encountered complaining that the Rhythm is crippled without an EQ, I don’t think this can possibly be on Novation’s radar. Personally I would EQ using an external box and sample back into the Rhythm if I couldn’t sculpt the sound using the filters and grid FX.

Definitely worth asking though. :grin:

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You know when you read a word so much that it becomes meaningless?

EQ.

I’ve got both units and haven’t felt the need for an EQ on them fwiw…but it’s nice to ask for sure. If something truly feels ‘off’ I just sample into LoopyPro and go nuts with all the iPad effects I need to take it up a notch :laughing:

But as others have said CREEP, just get an SP 404 MK2 if you really need EQ for your ‘groove’…but good luck finding one…seems like they won’t be around these parts until Sept 2022 or so (worst product launch in history-plagued by a series of unfortunate events) :face_with_monocle:

@JCFAX81 Darn You!

EQ
EQ
EQ
IQ
BBQ

Ho humm… :rofl:

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I’m happy you agree!

No they’re not, they’re missing an EQ :grin:

What should concern you are those who aren’t buying it simply because they downloaded the manual, discovered there’s not an EQ in sight and therefore moved on without bothering to ask. It’s not unusable without an EQ, but it’s not very professional, nor is it the sort of limitation you expect to find on a Groovebox. To put it into perspective, the MC-101 Groovebox has EQ Per Pad, Per Pattern, Per Track and Global (and that’s the baby of the line-up). The reason it has EQ in so many places is because EQ is important if you have any intention of making a quality track. I didn’t want to get into comparisons, but you forced my arm.

You could well be right but I hope you’re wrong, it’s no use to me without an EQ.

I’ll know when I see the next update :smile:

So meaningless it’s been a staple of quality music production since the dawn of the studio :laughing:

Sure. I think the members on here are having a little ‘New Member’ fun with me though, trying to break me in a bit!

Well…I dunno anything about that…but the ‘New Member’ name certainly doesn’t help :laughing:

Unless of course it’s related to ‘Feature Creep’ which is what is going on here as a discussion :pray:t4:

I take the Circuits at face value for what they offer today and don’t worry about the Future. They work for my needs now…anything which comes down the pipe in the future is just gravy.

But I agree…Feature Requests are necessary. Be sure and send the feedback to Novation. They are very good about getting back to you as a user. I’ve always been impressed with their Customer Support when it comes to feature requests and the like. They are a top-notch outfit if you ask me.

Here’s what I sent them in October of 2021 (with a return reply 4 days later):

It’s always best to go through a company support site for Feature Requests. It’s amazing to have @Calc here on the forum…but he’s a busy man and I wouldn’t want to bog him down with my requests when he has more important things to do…like making great music and showing us all how to go about it with our gear :facepunch:t4: :tm:

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I love my username, it could mean lots of things but no one knows which :grin:

I must say that’s quite a list you sent them, and what’s that I see in there?
Could it be an EQ? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Glad I’m not the only one, and I’d be very surprised if it’s not a top requested feature. I can’t imagine there being many gone through creating a track on the Circuit Rhythm and not come to a point where they’ve asked themselves …

“Where the Hell’s the EQ on this thing?”

I agree Novation are cool when it comes to supporting their hardware. I wouldn’t have even bothered asking if I didn’t think there was a chance they would listen. I really am surprised it wasn’t there from the start though, it really does need an EQ even if they only manage to squeeze one on the master as a Master EQ so that it can be resampled.

Come to think of it we have enough knobs for a 4-Band Parametric configured as follows:

  • Low
  • Low-Mid (Sweepable)
  • High-Mid (Sweepable)
  • High
  • Q (Effecting Both Sweepable Bands Simultaneously)

Another beauty of this EQ design is that it also fits the symmetry and layout of the Circuit perfectly as can be seen in the attached screen-shot. Don’t forget that the more capable this thing is as an effects processor, the more people will buy it even just for that. Since it can process Stereo In to Stereo Out, that’s like getting a very nice Stereo Parametric EQ in your studio and would make the purchase worth it just for the EQ alone for some people (me included).

If we had this on the Master it would be perfect:

The samples are mono.

True, that has nothing to do with EQ though.

They could even give it Stereo Sampling by sampling a Left and Right sample simultaneously and panning them hard left and hard right.

Then to edit samples in Stereo, all you would need is to press Shift to select both the Left and Right samples before using any editing functions on them. The hardware itself is Stereo In and Stereo Out so it should be possible. Same if you want to edit an EQ in stereo, just Shift-Select both samples before editing the EQ.

… better still, if you Shift-Select to record a Stereo Sample, the Rhythm should auto-remember that they are a ‘Stereo Pair’ and always edit them in pairs automatically.

Simple!

Create your own firmware :laughing:

Don’t be silly man, make yourself useful by answering these questions for me :grin:
I’ve got two questions, one about the Tracks and one about the Rhythm.

On the Tracks, is it possible to assign the receive MIDI channel number of each Synth Track to react to the same channel number from a MIDI keyboard, so that if I set my MIDI keyboard to one, can I play both synths at once by assigning both Synth Track channels to receive on channel one?

On the Rhythm, is it possible to trigger an external synth module from the MIDI out of the Rhythm, while at the same time, sampling that same synth module via the audio inputs on the Rhythm?

I’ve been curious about this for some time because every video I see, they are playing an instrument manually and sampling it rather than triggering it from the Rhythm while sampling it.

I can’t speak for anyone else. I know tone is hard to convey over text so this probably isn’t intentional. And I’ll answer your question. But I want you to know that this doesn’t come across as fun or playful or whatever. It comes across as dickish.

Yes. The Rhythm doesn’t have dedicated MIDI tracks, so you’d have to either turn the volume down on a sample or choose an empty slot. From there your keyboard will work polyphonically. But you can only sequence in mono. It’s also important to know that you can’t get around this by setting tracks to the same MIDI channel. Tracks can be on any channel from 1-15 but they have to be on their own channel.

I don’t own a Tracks so I can’t answer your other question.

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I get around the MIDI channel issue by routing MIDI through my Zoia. That way I get up to 8 note MIDI polyphony.

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Dope. I didn’t know you could do that from the Zoia.

Dude, I used an appropriate smiley even though I replied to a pointless comment, so not dickish at all on my part. I thought your original reply to me was a bit dickish to be honest!

Thanks, and glad to hear it because that would work for me triggering an external monosynth.

I think this thread has run its course. :thinking:

Thanks @Doug for your insight :facepunch:t3:™ Let’s go and make music and peace out on this thread.

The forum no longer needs a thread for these devices then, why’s that?

This thread don’t need you anymore…

I think you’re right, it appears to favour troll posts such as yours.

OK, please let’s stop feeding the troll, that deserves a silence while we talk to them.

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