Pioneer Toraiz SP-16

thanks a lot! at least there is a way to play the pads live without these annoying double hits
its not happening very often, but still…

besides that, im soo happy with the box. punching the pads for a while, create a simple pattern, add some digitone for melodic/chord stuff, so smooth

i only wish I had more time for it now, but work is busy, im on homeoffice, and 2 month old baby can be intense :slight_smile: at least it makes me appreciate how straightforward and fast it is to play with this. I recently had a chance to play with an MPC for a while and wow, thats a huge difference, i was lost. im sure you learn wour workflow and its generaly more powerful, but my impression was mainly that i made a really good choice with the sp-16

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As long as I’m not making patches or digging for samples, I find I can sneak into my studio for 20-30 minutes and turn on just the SP-16 and get quite a bit done.

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I saw a video to sample the Ableton Push into the SP 16 how can i do this?

Well, the SP-16 has audio input for Sampling but the Push is just a MIDI controller, it has no audio interface of any kind. If you can get sound out of your computer (via a separate audio interface or even the headphone jack) then you can sample it into the SP-16.

Thanks so the headphone jack from the SP-16 into the ins on my interface of also the jack?

Can you clarify what you want to do?

If you want to record sound (sample) into the SP-16 from your computer then you need to plug the output of your computer (audio interface or headphone output etc) into the input of your SP-16.

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Hi everyone,

If you working in arranger mode
And you render to separate stems and the master does it take all the automation from the filter, reverbe sends, LFO enz or does this only work if you work with the 8 outs and the master?

my friend who recently bought an Akai Force looked rather unimpressed by the SP-16, telling me (unlike my SP-16, which seemed to him quite limited or whatever) his Akai Force can do, LIKE, EVERYTHING, MAAAN! :raised_hands:

poor bastard had no clue this is exactly why I love the SP-16 and that the last thing I want is being able to do, like, everything man :raised_hands::smile_cat:

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when you render, the analog filters get bypassed (=they are turned off). if you want them in your recording, you need to record it through the outputs, while playing in real time

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Buy a Squid.
Sequence the SP-16.
Problem solved :slight_smile:

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guys please, do any of you have experience with live gigs, playing with the SP-16? I wonder if you have any tips regarding sound processing of the SP-16… I will be using it for the fist time on a party this Friday, and Im constantly changing the setup. and I will probably just plug the SP-16 into a mixer and just EQ it if needed and I will better leave it alone now in order to not do more harm than good :thinking:
still, im tempted to run it at least through some kind of tape emulator plugin, plus my ableton master racks with stutters, filters, echoes, and all the good stuff for live performance :neutral_face:
until now I was playing it the other way round, with my old ableton live sets through the SP-16 for analog filtering, achieving a nice cohesion instantly

Great combo. Here’s a video showing just the tip of the iceberg. = )

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TIP #1: Stop changing your set up before a gig. MOST IMPORTANT.
TIP#2: Make sure your performance has enough songs to get you through the show
TIP#3: Practice playing your entire set all the way through to see how it the tempo and pacing feels
TIP#4: Don’t overhype the high-mids when producing/practicing in your studio… big PA speakers already do this at loud volumes. Your audience doesn’t want to go deaf.
TIP#5: Yes, use your awesome rack of effects in Ableton…map the most important controls to a USB controller and label the knobs. Then don’t change anything…just practice over and over. Run everything through gentle multiband compression/mastering.
TIP#6: Have enough light so you can see what you’re doing.
TIP#7: Have fun!

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Nah, Went with the two octatrack option. But I like your thinking.

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I love this video. long format tutorial (wish this had been the first of a series from pioneerdj) . professional but not pointlessly slick. real world walk through of the basics with some intermediate techniques - would have loved to see some crazy routing setups using the v10 and this setup + a rmx-1000 or similar.

sadly, due to the recent Ascension of the SP-16 into Product Archive Heaven (or wherever) the youtube comments triggera loopmasters sad trombone one shot (key of sigh).

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Your support and genuine care is appreciated - especially your contributions in the Toraiz forum.

All we can do is hope that all these feature requests and suggestions result in a new product or new OS.

This situation is basically the inevitability of a large corporation releasing products into a market where there is heavier-then-usual user involvement in product feedback. Synth communities are used to smaller companies who can turn on a dime and respond to requests…Pioneer DJ serves a huge market of non-producers and may not know how to allocate resources to the more modern world of “constant product improvement”…especially with a line of products that involves a huge new customer base.

These are excuses, but just explanations as to the checkered history of the Toraiz series.

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I do think it’s strange that they did a promotional video emphasizing use of the SP-16 if it’s discontinued…

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@RhythmDroid where do I find this Toraiz forum???

https://forums.pioneerdj.com/hc/en-us/community/topics/200467403

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Doesn’t seem discontinued to me.