Vote on Overbridge!

Pro

It’s a unique concept and i just realised why i can profit from the overbridge system.
I preping a new liveset at the moment and we started our 6 elektron machines yesterday with a blank project on every machine.
With overbridge it took me just around 5 minutes to program all the performance settings on 2 A4 and 2 AR.
And this would have taken about 1 hour on the hardware…

So i’m stoked about how the integration works.
for recording/mutltitracking… well i like the sound of the converters a lot more when i record via A/D Converter

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Really? I’d like to see where you found these facts! I’m willing to bet that they’ve sold more boxes since the announcement of OB than at any other similar period of time in the past.[/quote]
And I’m willing to bet that they haven’t sold a lot of anything since the Octatrack dominated their sales.

I’ve been seeing more and more people selling their Elektron gear.

The majority of Elektron users will agree that the OT is the best thing Elektron has ever done. I know people love their monomachines but didn’t one dude (Shaggy I think his name was) buy 12 Octatracks?)

Keep talking out of your ass buddy…[/quote]
Dude, better get out that rectal thermometer because you’re hallucinating again. Shaggy posted once he’d love to have 8 Octatracks (due to initial product release exuberance mostly).

The main reason you see a lot Elektron gear for sale these days is precisely due to how many are being sold in general. Use your brain man.[/quote]
So what you’re saying is… a rectal thermometer prevents hallucinations? And how exactly did you arrive at that conclusion? I had to stoop to your childish level so you could understand and appreciate how childish your reply was…

The Octatrack is the best thing Elektron has ever done. Most people who can afford it buy two or more of them. People who sell it, simply don’t take the time to learn it fully. And when they do sell it, they usually buy it again later. If you want to have fun with samples (and actually make some music), even full instrumentals, nothing currently available beats the Octatrack. Before the OT, Elektron was a boutique company. Then the OT came along. Some people had to wait half a year or more for them to be back in stock to get one because they were selling out everywhere…

The OT has been the pinnacle of their engineering and design achievements. Everyone knows this…well everyone except you, of course.

I’m pretty sure Elektron at one point sent out a newsletter or posted on the old forum that because of the success of the OT, they lowered the price.

The whole point of delving into Elektron instruments was to write your music away from the computer wasn’t it?

'Uh what was their slogan again? “Making music is supposed to be fun. That’s why we make hardware”

Even their site design is less appealing now. Their former site design with the instruments standing above the city gave the feeling that they were superior hardware instruments. Everybody loved that design. Look at the site now…

Elektron has changed considerably. Yeah, they’ve expanded which is great for business…or is it?-

As for Overbridge? It’s been over-hyped for how long now?

It’s been rushed to the users-even in it’s beta stage. They could have waited, kept the silence and designed a new instrument, like a MIDI master control station or something… or added new features to their existing machines.

Believe me, I support Elektron and I would never sell any of my Elektron instruments, but Overbridge isn’t working out like they had hoped. Delay after delay in the beginning and after a year of beta testing it’s still about 50/50.

No one is perfect, so shit happens. But like I said before, their design idea for Overbridge isn’t exactly a new idea. Look around. The Virus T1 has been doing this on a smaller scale for a long time. The concept seems great…and with USB 3.0, 3.1- with all the extra bandwidth the audio streaming shouldn’t be a problem-in theory.

Most users would have been more than happy with a stereo audio stream through USB with MIDI control and a few audio outs for a mixer or other outboard gear. Pretty much everyone who owns an Elektron box has an audio interface of some kind…

Has it been worth the headache for them?

By the time they get it stable, other companies will have already followed suit and their instruments will be designed with USB 3.0 on the machine itself, not 2.0.

Elektron is like everyone else. They create something new or they build on what’s already existing. Parameter locks is a good example. The Spectralis has it’s own style of parameter locking, but it isn’t called ‘parameter locking’…

At one point a few years ago, Radikal Technologies introduced a software controller for the Accelerator synth. The idea was to control the synth from an ipad or other tablet… That was 3 years ago I believe and still nothing has surfaced, and no one who owns that amazing synth cares if it ever does.

Apparently, it’s not easy to unite hardware and software beyond the levels of what is already available.

As the saying goes- ‘If it ain’t broke, why try to fix it?’

And poonti, I use my brain, more than you could possibly imagine.

Pro!

There are A LOT of reasons but for example, just today, I was using the A4 on a midi sequence and it was nice to simply audition all the presets within all the banks by just pressing the down key and enter in the sound browser instead of double clicking the track 1 button, then down arrow, then yes key.

Really? I’d like to see where you found these facts! I’m willing to bet that they’ve sold more boxes since the announcement of OB than at any other similar period of time in the past.[/quote]
And I’m willing to bet that they haven’t sold a lot of anything since the Octatrack dominated their sales.

I’ve been seeing more and more people selling their Elektron gear.

The majority of Elektron users will agree that the OT is the best thing Elektron has ever done. I know people love their monomachines but didn’t one dude (Shaggy I think his name was) buy 12 Octatracks?)

Keep talking out of your ass buddy…[/quote]
Dude, better get out that rectal thermometer because you’re hallucinating again. Shaggy posted once he’d love to have 8 Octatracks (due to initial product release exuberance mostly).

The main reason you see a lot Elektron gear for sale these days is precisely due to how many are being sold in general. Use your brain man.[/quote]
So what you’re saying is… a rectal thermometer prevents hallucinations? And how exactly did you arrive at that conclusion? I had to stoop to your childish level so you could understand and appreciate how childish your reply was…

The Octatrack is the best thing Elektron has ever done. Most people who can afford it buy two or more of them. People who sell it, simply don’t take the time to learn it fully. And when they do sell it, they usually buy it again later. If you want to have fun with samples (and actually make some music), even full instrumentals, nothing currently available beats the Octatrack. Before the OT, Elektron was a boutique company. Then the OT came along. Some people had to wait half a year or more for them to be back in stock to get one because they were selling out everywhere…

The OT has been the pinnacle of their engineering and design achievements. Everyone knows this…well everyone except you, of course.

I’m pretty sure Elektron at one point sent out a newsletter or posted on the old forum that because of the success of the OT, they lowered the price.

The whole point of delving into Elektron instruments was to write your music away from the computer wasn’t it?

'Uh what was their slogan again? “Making music is supposed to be fun. That’s why we make hardware”

Even their site design is less appealing now. Their former site design with the instruments standing above the city gave the feeling that they were superior hardware instruments. Everybody loved that design. Look at the site now…

Elektron has changed considerably. Yeah, they’ve expanded which is great for business…or is it?-

As for Overbridge? It’s been over-hyped for how long now?

It’s been rushed to the users-even in it’s beta stage. They could have waited, kept the silence and designed a new instrument, like a MIDI master control station or something… or added new features to their existing machines.

Believe me, I support Elektron and I would never sell any of my Elektron instruments, but Overbridge isn’t working out like they had hoped. Delay after delay in the beginning and after a year of beta testing it’s still about 50/50.

No one is perfect, so shit happens. But like I said before, their design idea for Overbridge isn’t exactly a new idea. Look around. The Virus T1 has been doing this on a smaller scale for a long time. The concept seems great…and with USB 3.0, 3.1- with all the extra bandwidth the audio streaming shouldn’t be a problem-in theory.

Most users would have been more than happy with a stereo audio stream through USB with MIDI control and a few audio outs for a mixer or other outboard gear. Pretty much everyone who owns an Elektron box has an audio interface of some kind…

Has it been worth the headache for them?

By the time they get it stable, other companies will have already followed suit and their instruments will be designed with USB 3.0 on the machine itself, not 2.0.

Elektron is like everyone else. They create something new or they build on what’s already existing. Parameter locks is a good example. The Spectralis has it’s own style of parameter locking, but it isn’t called ‘parameter locking’…

At one point a few years ago, Radikal Technologies introduced a software controller for the Accelerator synth. The idea was to control the synth from an ipad or other tablet… That was 3 years ago I believe and still nothing has surfaced, and no one who owns that amazing synth cares if it ever does.

Apparently, it’s not easy to unite hardware and software beyond the levels of what is already available.

As the saying goes- ‘If it ain’t broke, why try to fix it?’

And poonti, I use my brain, more than you could possibly imagine.
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My point was that your hallucinations are most probably caused by intense fever, rather than ingestion of LSD, so I recommended you get that thermometer out.

You argue that Elektron has been doing badly during the Overbridge period because you see so many of their boxes for sale. I’m saying that there are so many boxes for sale BECAUSE they’re selling very well, and hence there are many more on the market - why is that so hard for you to understand?

You claimed that Shaggy bought 12 Octatracks (he only mentioned he would like to make use of 8, but never did buy that many, which would be a stupid thing to do anyway) and use that as a reason as to why the OT is the supreme product in the stable. Yes, some people love the OT, some love the MD, the MnM, the A4, the AR, and so on. There are many many fans of the new analogue black boxes, so what?

As for OB itself, I never claimed it was a “new idea” but it’s definitely far superior to the Virus TI nonesense, and after that, well there’s not much else to compare it to (and it’s nowhere near finished).

You mention that other companies have already followed suit? Who, may I ask, is that? You’re comparing Radikal Technologies to Elektron? What successful integration has RT done that compares to OB? All I’ve read about RT is great hardware/obfuscated software/ui…how can you even mention Spectralis in the same breath as Elektron stuff (the UI is a train-wreck).

I have no clue how much you use your brain…I’m only going by what you’ve posted here.

@ poonti and TRSC2015

Guys, are you sure that your exchange matches this thread? Please, the OP originally wanted no “discussions”, but only some Pro or Cons.

Look at your postings, nearly one page long with all the replies … :wink:

Pro - saves on connecting things for recording and saves on automating through other available means

Con - naive assumption that OT would have gotten some extra features if OB never happened.

On balance: If OT was ever going to get those extra features, it’ll get them over the coming 6 months anyway (or it might not, and never would have anyway). So OB is Pro overall as it is a very handy free feature for alternative DAW uses.

However I’m firmly in the camp of liking elektron because it should be about the box, no pc. I’m more excited about OctaEdit than OB, though I have AR, A4, MnM & OT.

Con: right now I feel like I’m only a couple of OS upgrades from my music not sucking - but if all dev resources had gone in to OS updates, my OT would now have become sentient and begun making me coffee, posting on web forums, and producing my music for me. Also, that ring-mod kick drum for my sentient RYTM would have changed my life.

Pro: at least we’ve been saved the inevitable Skynet scenario if elektron devs were all working on releasing the full potential of my drum machine, synth and sampler.

(Pro: overbridge is great.)

PRO
But please keep hustling

  • fix the sync
  • get out the librarian software

…And i think the analog series brought Elektron really to the forefreont. Right thing at the right time sort of thing…
cheers

Meanwhile the voting

‘Con’ is in a sentence of ‘against’ Overbridge!
So don’t interpret ‘Con’ like a disadvantage opinion.

Pro: 19

Pro/Con: 15

Con: 19

i cant believe these numbers are actually happeningn in this thread… if OB did not exist, we all would give half our ball sacks to have it developed…

^ :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

So true.
I’m Pro-OB, if it wasn’t clear enough, dear NoiseLab

So, is the point of this thread trying to convince Elektron that so many people are “against” overbridge that they should abandon it and instead devote dev resources to trying to unlock the Octatrack’s latent artificially intelligent hovercraft functionality via firmware updates?

I hope that isn’t the case, because it’d be lame as hell if it was.

I can respect that some people like to work with Elektron boxes alone, but to state the obvious computers, daws and plugins are here to stay. Tbh, it seems from my experience that the overwhelming majority are working primarily ITB these days.

Seems to be overlooked that the work going in to development of OB now will presumably benefit the next generation of Elektrons, Octatrack 2 or whatever they might be. Personally can’t wait to see where Elektron go with this.

(Ummm … in case it wasn’t clear, I’m 100% pro OB)

nah nah … let me stop you there, you’ve mistakenly confused this naive and futile endeavour for something potentially worthwhile and/or interesting - it has no point (nor statistical credibility), even if the ‘outcome’ was conceivably of mild interest to Elektron (they have work to be getting on with)
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each to their own, but it’s just like these ‘petition’ click-bait threads - doomed to nothingness (except flaring up the usual optimist/pessimist squabbling ) -but terrific at encouraging yet more entitled moaning primarily about user preference with little or no common or business sense brought to the table, let alone patience
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by all means vent, but Elektron will continue to manage just fine without needing to plough through this - imho, if OB didn’t split opinion, they’d have got something wrong ! we all want the boxes to get a bit of a polish, but I want Elektron to thrive and support the hardware - it’s their show, you best just trust them
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if it helps nip this silliness in the bud then I ought to point out to OP that my original ‘spoiled’ vote was clearly a Pro too (even though I don’t use OB) - but I can’t believe I’m dignifying this by bothering to clarify that
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anyway, as you all were - maybe I’m just cynical and this is a genius initiative… at least some of the wit on display is entertaining along the way :slight_smile:
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maybe you could have a pro/con vote on this type of thread :wink:

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Pro: management of macros

Con: can’t say anything, maybe when i’m going to buy the Rytm during christmas with the hub

[Please replace everything I’ve posted in this thread with these 3 letters:]

PRO

pro (but we still have to wait for OB to mature enough for the good stuff!)

Really should have been a separate poll for Live users and users of other Daws since it is completely unuseable in many cases.

Just reply with quote from your vote if you change your mind!

Also of course for those who voted both ‘Pro’ and ‘Con’ if you want to change your vote.

True.

PRO all the way!

Love it. ROCK SOLID sync on my system – when I changed it; it ran poorly on my 2009 mac mini and 10.7.5. Decent audio quality, though the A4/AK could use a level boost. Haven’t done A/B with audio from my Duet yet. Not sure if I’m even bothered to, like I said it sounds fine to me.

A ton of cool features that I’ve barely scratched the surface with. Really excited for future potential. Yes, it’s been slow to come…yes, Elektron is typically tight lipped about where they’re at with things…yes, there are still undelivered features…and yes, it most likely has slowed down the development of new OSes/features on their instruments…

I agree with Avantronica that this thread is kind of pointless, though I’m having fun reading it.

I do wish that they would hurry up and release solid versions for other DAWs. I think that if we were even at a level where the currently available features worked well across most platforms we’d see vastly different results in this “poll.” I’d probably be frustrated too if I were a logic user who had been anticipating this.

My one worry in all this is not that Elektron is on the wrong track or misguided in moving away from their “all about OTB” stance; it’s that OB becomes a quagmire for them in trying to get things stable across multiple DAWS and constantly changing computer OSes. Seems like a potential headache…